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2002-11-27 18:50
Richard

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 619
Domination #17 - Shit news - Here's the proper story!

What's the big idea posting shit about Excess and me as an Excess member? I'm not an Excess member. We know who the culprit is posting shit about Excess, when it wasn't Excess' fault but mine.

I admit that I passed my game 'Bomb Chase' to St0rmfr0nt/Excess via Email, because Urine (or should I say Onslaught) had first released a beta-version of this game which weren't meant to be spread. Later on, St0rmfr0nt/Excess firstreleased a properly trained version of this game (Which loads of people enjoyed) and added to the releasenote about Urine's version of the game being beta.

A day later St0rmfr0nt Emailed me asking me why I did a fake Excess release of Bomb Chase, and that I wasn't a member or Excess (Nor shall I be because I'm in 2 groups already). I told St0rmfr0nt the truth and told him that there's a lamer somewhere who probably thought it would be funny to do a fake Excess release.

I was really pissed off and we were suspicious that Jazzcat could have been behind the prank, after the Urine release had proved to be some fake. Urine tried to re-release the proper version of Bomb Chase but failed, because I asked all FTP owners to remove the release, as I had a feeling that Urine was really going to piss hard on my work.

I come up with a cunning plan (not so clever) which was create a FAKE ONSLAUGHT firstrelease of the same game. I also uploaded a few versions of Bomb Chase (Not Excess ones though, but TND. One with TND intro with a message attacking Onslaught, and another with no intro). I also uploaded a note to remove the fakes and just keep the genuine TND (intro-less) version of my game, and also the PROPER 'Excess' version of the game.

And (pant, pant) that's how the story goes. I am NOT (i repeat) NOT and Excess member, but a regular friendly contact with Excess. But from now on, I think I should let other groups try first releases of my work - for competition, no matter what. The Urine of Bomb Chase must have been some sort of joke. That game was too good to be lame - or was it to do with the graphics I prepared using Jon's the Multi-Screen Construction Kit?

If anyone adds to any news any more crap about either TND or Excess. We will be sure to bite back. Just wait and see.

I apologise for the grief I have cause concerning the uploading of the FTP's, but now....I think we are owed an apology!
2002-11-27 19:23
zyruz
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Posts: 33
heh, calm down! ;) .. you simply take the whole c-64stuff far to serious.. don't you? *g ...remember, c-64 is fun not real life stuff.


just my 2cents.
2002-11-27 20:36
Richard

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 619
Quote: heh, calm down! ;) .. you simply take the whole c-64stuff far to serious.. don't you? *g ...remember, c-64 is fun not real life stuff.


just my 2cents.


...and Urine pissing on my work? Is that supposed to be fun, when it's mostly my good quality game releases like Bomb Chase? (When other groups don't get at it?)

I enjoy creating games, but I don't enjoy the grief of Urine pissing on my work - unless it was poor-quality tat.
2002-11-27 21:54
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
But it's not up to you alone to decide if it's shit poor .. not that I say it is (because I don't care for your games so I don't check them out - don't take it personal, I don't care for any c64 game anymore) but Urine might feel that way.
2002-11-27 22:37
Warbaby
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Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 60
Richard, sometimes you take things a bit too seriously. You post everything you think. That's why you're such an easy target for silly pranks.
2002-11-27 23:17
Slator

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 273
I don't care for any PD games, what is the point to do first releases of games every sucker can download on the internet?
There is no need for that. And if excess believes that is is a good idea to release them then it is ok. That is the main reason for urine stuff (and I don't do them anyway).
I prefer one metal warrior in 3 years than 10 games by richard in 1 week.
I don't say that Richard should stop his game coding, but he should think a bit before writing anything he doesn't have a clue of. Claiming to be the king of the scene because of some small < 100 blocks games is not really what I like on ppl. Not that anyone cares of what I think anyways. The scene like it was in the past is gone for a long time... a "crackerscene" (if you want to call it like that) is just happening in the re-releasing of old games as you need some knowledge and dedication to reach the quality you want for yourself. I nthe past you gained laughter for PD and not points...

regards


2002-11-28 00:48
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Owe an apology? all the tiny little troubles in the scene always have a common object - RICHARD - if it is SealSex, Urine, Onslaught, Excess or DaLaxatives.
No apologies are given, if there is incorrect news it gets corrected in the following edition.

Regarding game quality, fake lables and releases being 'pissed' on. I cannot say much more than what Slator has said. Except that public domain games have always been pissed on, groups releasing only these type of games should be competing with the lamer lables like Urine.

2002-11-28 01:03
fade
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Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 290
Quote:

>I come up with a cunning plan (not so clever) which was create a FAKE ONSLAUGHT firstrelease of the same game.

Natural selection says you should have died many moons ago..
2002-11-28 03:11
Stryyker

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 465
"Why are people so unkind?", wise man once said that. Lighten up Richard. It's also easy for anyone to stick some other groups intro in front. Atleast you have plenty of passion.
2002-11-28 08:03
taper

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 119
Someone is taking himself far to serious for sure.

We in TRIAD decided to stay as far away as possible from any TND games after all the fuzz with beta's, different versions, bugfixes, 100% versions, originals being uploaded to the firstrelease ftp's and so on. And what about that TND intro, is it the gameintro or is it a crackintro? I have the feeling Onslaught has the same view on this.

I can honestly say I have never seen such a lame mess in the crackingscene for as long as I've been active. The scene has changed a lot over the years, but this takes the price.

...and my opinion still stands, I see no point in releasing freely available PD games if they are not improved in some way. Linking an intro, adding as much as 40 blocks in some cases to the original filesize and not provide any kind of trainers, bugfixes or (obviously) shortening should be punished hard.

By the way, there are still other originals than TND games to obtain these days, occasional new commercial games from Go64!/Commodore Scene/protovision, but also a lot of unreleased titles from the past hidden away in coders and old software houses dusty diskboxes. Just a hint to some.
2002-11-28 08:36
cadaver

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1154
Quote: I don't care for any PD games, what is the point to do first releases of games every sucker can download on the internet?
There is no need for that. And if excess believes that is is a good idea to release them then it is ok. That is the main reason for urine stuff (and I don't do them anyway).
I prefer one metal warrior in 3 years than 10 games by richard in 1 week.
I don't say that Richard should stop his game coding, but he should think a bit before writing anything he doesn't have a clue of. Claiming to be the king of the scene because of some small < 100 blocks games is not really what I like on ppl. Not that anyone cares of what I think anyways. The scene like it was in the past is gone for a long time... a "crackerscene" (if you want to call it like that) is just happening in the re-releasing of old games as you need some knowledge and dedication to reach the quality you want for yourself. I nthe past you gained laughter for PD and not points...

regards




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