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2006-11-15 21:35
The Shark-INC
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Candyman

Hi All,

I was sad to learn today from CSDb that Candyman (aka Dave) has passed away. I thought I would give a little more info about him. Candyman's profile notes that he was a real-life candy man. I do not think he filled vending machines, however. He told me that he owned a candy business where they distributed a box of candy to various businesses and offices. You would then put money in a slot in the box and take candy on an honor system. This is common in the USA, although vending machines are common as well. He told me that if ever he was ripped off, he simply would no longer bring candy to that office. I imagine he had a partnership with the secretaries as well to watch over his candy and money.

Dave was pioneer too. He started what I believe was the first USA scene magazine named Influx and then later used his wealth to order originals with overnight mail to get a leg up on the competition. This worked extremely well on the PC scene with his newly formed group The Humble Guys (THG) and had some light USA crack success on the C64 with FBR and Intense. His sense of humor regarding his "local lamers" was legendary, and could also be seen how he ran THG. He proudly treated his locals like peasants, but allowed them to work their way up in rank if they proved themselves. Ironically, his locals loved this kind of treatment, but this was in part because Dave would reward them by "slowly feeding them" releases now and then.

Here's a picture of Candyman... RIP, Dave...



The Shark

PS – In the back of my mind, with his sense of humor, I wonder if Candyman is still alive and just pulled a fast one on us. I guess I don't want to believe he is dead.
 
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2007-04-06 05:31
Style

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anyone who comes on to csdb and starts ranting quasi-legal shit (libel and slander indeed) is a moron in my book.

2007-04-06 06:41
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Quote: anyone who comes on to csdb and starts ranting quasi-legal shit (libel and slander indeed) is a moron in my book.



Hear hear.
2007-04-06 08:18
The Shark-INC
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I first heard of Candyman's "rumored" death from CSDb on front page news. I am not the one who started this story, I just tried to post my regards. I doubt that you searched the net too hard as the THG page mentions it and you'll likely find references to the death in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Since you like to run to Oahawhool, maybe you should ask Oahawhool what he knows... Or did he ditch Candyman's wife by now?

As for Oahawhool, I stand by my opinion about him being pure evil. Your comment about my evil comment being libel is a joke, IMO, not to mention that I am sure a jury would agree with me as we chronicled his life. Hehe... You indicate that you are a buddy of his, so I understand you want to defend him. Maybe he's turned over a new leaf? Great for him...
2007-04-06 20:37
The Bandit
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Quote: anyone who comes on to csdb and starts ranting quasi-legal shit (libel and slander indeed) is a moron in my book.



So are you calling me a moron? Ah I see the C64 has left you but the child in you hasn't. Good for you!
2007-04-06 20:38
The Bandit
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Quote: Hear hear.

Anyone hear something?
2007-04-06 20:47
The Bandit
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Quote: I first heard of Candyman's "rumored" death from CSDb on front page news. I am not the one who started this story, I just tried to post my regards. I doubt that you searched the net too hard as the THG page mentions it and you'll likely find references to the death in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Since you like to run to Oahawhool, maybe you should ask Oahawhool what he knows... Or did he ditch Candyman's wife by now?

As for Oahawhool, I stand by my opinion about him being pure evil. Your comment about my evil comment being libel is a joke, IMO, not to mention that I am sure a jury would agree with me as we chronicled his life. Hehe... You indicate that you are a buddy of his, so I understand you want to defend him. Maybe he's turned over a new leaf? Great for him...


See, the point i'm trying to make in all this is don't rush to conclusions. Saying things like "I heard it on wikipedia, that makes it true" or "The Sky is Blue" doesn't exactly make it true.

Yes, I talk to Oaha a lot. Him and I are good friends. I heard Tuesday from Greble Dagmar at Bongo Java in Nashville that Dave (Candyman) Francis was found dead, face down in his front yard in Watertown, TN. What I'm saying is.. I hear these stories about Candyman like Missouri, Tennessee, Mexico, Russia and Kentucky.. hell I even heard Canada back in the early 90's.

As for Oaha, He's always been on a good leaf. I don't know what you're saying about him. Oaha is a very nice guy... always has been in my book. I don't know what pages you flipped in your book.

When I exited the scene in 87, I took with me a handful of friends that were truly the best, imo. Shark, I think you have too much angst for such a small incident. You hang on too much to the past. Sooner or later, that angst will catch up to you.

Check this out:

http://www.sptimes.ru/index.php?action_id=2&story_id=7222

LOL
2007-04-06 21:28
The Bandit
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Shark, quick question, are you the kid that lived behind Candyman around 85-86?
2007-04-20 22:19
executioner
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No, Shark lived in AZ.. Of course I don't know if he still does, but he definately did back then... I guess I'll never know his where abouts now considering he won't talk to me anymore.. We've (Shark & Myself) been so close throughout the years and he finally decided to 'cut off' our relationship because I emailed him a porno one day for laughs.. Oh well, Hi David...

Regards,
Joel
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2007-04-21 20:14
The Shark-INC
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Executioner: Nonsense. I've never cut off our communication. I just haven't received any CSDb message from you _ever_ and the old email account you had for me may be dead as I change private email addresses frequently. I don't recall ever receiving unsolicited porn from you, but knowing you, I am sure that is some kind of prank you would pull. You're still cool in my book, even though you are from New York. :) You ever find Warewolf?

Bandit: I basically told you to go out and do your homework about this subject. Instead, you decide to post 4-5 year old information about Candyman found with basic Google searches, paint it as current, and claim it as coming from "your sources." Yes, Candyman was in Russia for a bit, but I guess he came back to the USA. Regarding his death, I read the actual obituary in the St. Louis paper mentioned above. Sure, Candyman could have reported his own death as a joke or to stay hidden, but thus far no one has presented any evidence to contradict this.

Bandit, you've come here telling people that I am spreading rumors, but the only rumor spreader I see is you. Based on your tone and content, there is no doubt to me that you have an agenda here. I don't know what that agenda is, but I am sure you were sent by Oahawhool as that was his MO. I brought up Oahawhool because people asked about the incident which you then made a huge cognitive leap that that means I "hang onto the past." As far as I know, Oahawhool was the one gunning for me, not the other way around. I've moved on from 20 years ago, and I think Oahawhool has too. Anyway, birds of a feather flock together, so I know what you are all about. You and Joe should take your agenda and misdirection elsewhere.
2007-04-22 07:53
executioner
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Ok then fair enough... Probably so.. I did try to message you at one point here as well but it seems as though you never received it..

I still have my wildcard after all these years.. Tried selling it on ebay now that I have the entire SNES collection emulated with 'zsnesw'. Naturally they shut the auction down =(

Whats the hangup with NY??? I don't get it... And no I'm still looking for Stan & Steve...

Regards,
Joel
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