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2010-02-16 18:41
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1714
Help test x64sc, the next generation x64.

We've spent a month and a half rewriting x64 into x64sc and would like to have some feedback.

Please test this with as many things as you can and report any emulation bugs you find in here or alternatively on #vice-dev @ freenode.net.

Let's bring VICE from the 90's into the modern age!

Good:
- emulator rewritten, more accurate
- models:
   Breadbox (default) x64sc -VICIImodel 0 -ciamodel 0 -gluelogictype 0
   C64C               x64sc -VICIImodel 1 -ciamodel 1 -gluelogictype 1
   C128-ish           x64sc -VICIImodel 1 -ciamodel 1 -gluelogictype 0
Bad:
- slow (will be faster)
- possible regressions, please test
- no NTSC (yet)
- no REU (yet)
- no snapshots (yet)
- mystery drive bug (disable virtual device traps)
- GUI not yet updated

Win32 binary: x64sc-r22294-win32.zip

Source code (subversion repository):
svn co https://vice-emu.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/vice-emu/branches/..

 
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2010-07-02 16:24
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1714
Quote: is the 22705 the same binaries you can download from vice HP?

I am asking coz I want to run this on 64 bit os..


No, they are not the same. I only have a 32 bit msys/mingw setup.

We'd love to have someone set up some automatic builds of the trunk though, volunteers?

2010-07-02 20:39
Rubi
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 48
Quote: Btw, I've been having a strange issue (with both x64 and x64sc)... Namely warp mode doesn't seem to be used to it's full potential; I only get a speedup of about 300 - 400% on this machine (AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 3.2GHz), but on my 2GHz Pentium 4 laptop, I easily get to 700% speed, if not much higher.

It doesn't bother me so much, but I'm still kind of curious what the problem might be. I know it happens under Windows Server 2003 and windows 7 ultimate (both 64-bit), haven't tested on Gentoo yet.

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Enable "Render to DX primary surface" in the video settings. Should bring back some speed.
2010-07-18 17:02
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1714
New version: x64sc-r22731-win32.zip (x64sc & x64)

- NTSC sprite timing fixes (x64sc)
- Sound buffer overflow error replaced with warning
- Excessive drive cpu load during reset fixed
- Drive rotation improvements (fixes Snapshot)
- Weak bit emulations on 64-bit systems fixed
- VIA wrap handling rewritten
- Some cartridge fixes

Any improvements to NTSC emulation is dependent on further bug reports.
2010-07-18 22:30
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3135
thanks for removing the sound buffer msgbox, about time ;)

-cartexpert now requires parameter (no way!), and can't be activated anymore from menu.

in monitor, io d000 in this build doesn't work but i see on SF there's already a patch for it so I will try to build it tomorrow.

and while at it, my email is iancoog(at)email.it if you can change it in the about box =)
2010-07-19 11:48
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11118
"-cartexpert now requires parameter (no way!), and can't be activated anymore from menu."

that was unified, its correct. and the menu item is still there, it just moved (in gnomeui anyway, i give a damn about win32 =P). and first time for 20 years, expert cart actually even works =P
2010-07-21 22:38
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3135
hrmf. I see now the source, changelog doesn't even mention it:
-cartexpert now requires a parameter for a binary, a new
-expert option is added to just enable it without providing a binary.
Anyway the fact that the option is in the menu doesn't mean that it works: selecting "expert/enable" it only gives "invalid cartridge", no matter if i specify -expert or not on the cmdline.
2010-07-22 13:47
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11118
the ui (assuming windows) is very broken and lagging behind atm (lots of things missing there).

however, using -expert it should work (and you dont need the menu item after that).
2010-07-28 02:17
Grafitronix Plus
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Registered: Sep 2009
Posts: 3
I just tried to play Mars Saga (Ikati+Talent cracked version).

The r22731 version of x64, CPU became jammed with $AB39.
I jumped into the Monitor and it lists: ** Monitor 276 057
(C:$ab39)

I went into the "Gambling Establishment", chose "Laser Slots" and "Save my City Map" when it crashed. It was on the disk swap-- it did not make it to the prompt.

Not sure what else to do, but it ran fine up to that point.
2010-07-28 03:03
Grafitronix Plus
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Registered: Sep 2009
Posts: 3
Forgot to mention:
Windows 7,
Intel Centrino Duo DualCore 2Ghz (both processors),
nVidia 8600GS M video card,
... in my HP Pavilion dv6000
(bios upgrade claims it's a dv6500).

The sc version gives warp mode of max:
349% 60fps

The x64 version gives fluctuating max:
1049% 65fps (every 30 or 40 seconds)
740% 62fps
694% 60fps

Strange, but it can be disheartening to know that the SC version is 'slower' than the non-SC version... (warp mode) and more compatible with the 1541 proper emulation.

IMHO, not bad. Working on a couple of other games to test, but will probably note something later in the week.

Godd going, so far... I know there's still work to be done.
2010-07-28 18:30
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11118
the 60fps hint that you were testing in NTSC mode ... are you sure the game in question works properly on a real NTSC setup ?
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