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2005-10-22 12:47
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
Dumping my personal collection to CSDB, assistance appreciated

Hi all,

I just finished sorting my personal collection of cracks and demos and will now add them to CSDB step by step. I'm by far no expert in the cracking scene, so it would be nice if any of the more experienced guys in the business (Rough?) could take a quick look on recent crack entries now and then, to prevent me from adding bullshit. ;-)

Thanks in advance,
Steppe
 
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2005-10-23 02:24
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
Quote: Which specific tools do you use that opens .zip's but do not open .gz's?

did I say I cannot open .gzip? but it's not as spread, best is .zip or the .d64 images.

I use PowerArchiver
2005-10-23 04:14
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Funny thing about preservation and archives - always debate rages on filenames and what is appropriate and zip format. I care for neither. Do whatever. Just _convert_ it and I will change things if I feel they need changing for my own benefit.

I have around 11 DVDs of C64 collections, all of which are in different file formats, different zip formats etc. None of which stops me from accessing anything from them.
2005-10-23 09:24
Trazan

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 620
The way how to compress them is the least worry indeed, spare a 40G harddrive to put them all on, costs like nothing these days. Plain D64 is the way to go people!

2005-10-23 09:43
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1787
Quote: did I say I cannot open .gzip? but it's not as spread, best is .zip or the .d64 images.

I use PowerArchiver


No, you said "gzip is not open-able with many tools", and "so the best is .ZIP or .D64.". Naturally I then assumed you had come across such a tool. Though I admit that I was a little sloppy by saying that you'd have to use that particular tool.

I agree with Trazan about the format though. Compression is the least worry.
I find .zip's a little inconvenient when downloading from here, as I have to unpack them before running
in vice, but that's only a minor detail. And it may also be different in combination with other emulators and software.

Personally I have all my old disks as .d64's (with error info, important!) backupped. When I add to csdb, I create the d64's and screen-shots on the fly from those images using vice and starcommander. This way I can utilize information about context, like if the disk is from one of my contacts, there can be dates in personal messages that show when I got the disk and so on...
2005-10-23 10:10
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
Jörg, if you decide to use a tool (Power Archiver) that can't cope with one of the oldest established free formats (.gz), I can't help it. There will always be someone who can't open this and that format because he got used to "his" archiving tool. That doesn't mean he can't open it, you just need to get a new tool. ;-)
www.7-zip.org (freeware) is my archiver of choice, by the way.
2005-10-23 11:53
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
Quote: Jörg, if you decide to use a tool (Power Archiver) that can't cope with one of the oldest established free formats (.gz), I can't help it. There will always be someone who can't open this and that format because he got used to "his" archiving tool. That doesn't mean he can't open it, you just need to get a new tool. ;-)
www.7-zip.org (freeware) is my archiver of choice, by the way.


*sigh* read it again:

"Quote: did I say I cannot open .gzip?"

PowerArchiver _can_ open it. But GZIP is a Linux native (as for as I know) format and a lot of people have troubles first to find a prg that opens it. Why using a weird format if ZIP is absolutely and ok? even Star Commander can handle ZIP, it's making life easier.
2005-10-23 15:10
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1787
Quote: *sigh* read it again:

"Quote: did I say I cannot open .gzip?"

PowerArchiver _can_ open it. But GZIP is a Linux native (as for as I know) format and a lot of people have troubles first to find a prg that opens it. Why using a weird format if ZIP is absolutely and ok? even Star Commander can handle ZIP, it's making life easier.


Ok, this doesn't matter really, but just to clarify the difference between .gz's and .zip's:

a .gz file is just a file that has been compressed using gzip. It is only one file, so programs like vice can use them interchangably as one file.

a .zip archive can contain any number of files, including text-files explaining the release, etc. A tool like vice cannot automatically assume which of the contained files are the ones to open. The zip's therefore has to be unpacked before used.

Ofcourse vice and other software could be hacked to just pick the first .d64 of a zip archive, or present a list, but it's just a bit more tricky than with gzip archives.

Again like Trazan hinted, packed or unpacked doesn't matter, because as long as the data is there it can always be converted into the format you like.
2005-10-23 20:31
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
Quote: Ok, this doesn't matter really, but just to clarify the difference between .gz's and .zip's:

a .gz file is just a file that has been compressed using gzip. It is only one file, so programs like vice can use them interchangably as one file.

a .zip archive can contain any number of files, including text-files explaining the release, etc. A tool like vice cannot automatically assume which of the contained files are the ones to open. The zip's therefore has to be unpacked before used.

Ofcourse vice and other software could be hacked to just pick the first .d64 of a zip archive, or present a list, but it's just a bit more tricky than with gzip archives.

Again like Trazan hinted, packed or unpacked doesn't matter, because as long as the data is there it can always be converted into the format you like.


still best is plain .D64
2005-10-23 21:22
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: Ok, this doesn't matter really, but just to clarify the difference between .gz's and .zip's:

a .gz file is just a file that has been compressed using gzip. It is only one file, so programs like vice can use them interchangably as one file.

a .zip archive can contain any number of files, including text-files explaining the release, etc. A tool like vice cannot automatically assume which of the contained files are the ones to open. The zip's therefore has to be unpacked before used.

Ofcourse vice and other software could be hacked to just pick the first .d64 of a zip archive, or present a list, but it's just a bit more tricky than with gzip archives.

Again like Trazan hinted, packed or unpacked doesn't matter, because as long as the data is there it can always be converted into the format you like.


Nice background info, thanks dude.
2005-10-23 22:02
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
What a funny conversation in 2005 when people have access to all tools. The same old story every time that plagues conversion and archives. I guess it is guaranteed amusement.
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