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2013-12-13 22:23
Didi

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 533
Comment editing disabled

What's the reason for disabling this, please?
 
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2014-02-21 11:09
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3238
you only see one problem, there are some comments or trivia that are now obsoleted, like ppl reporting a tune missing in HVSC, or our notes on ripped tunes to avoid multiple reports of stuff already processed. but this is getting old, if you prefer to have useless comments cluttering the entries, your choice, I won't care anymore.
2014-02-21 11:22
Fred

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 298
I clearly understand that this will still work out without the edit comments feature. Once another comment is added, it is logic not to edit the previous one anymore since the other comment could be made invalid.

This site is about gathering info and documenting the C64 scene. It should be like a wiki page where people can contribute with putting their information what they know. This all works fine for putting information for groups and sceners. Everybody can edit that information which is good. It is not the same as for releases since there is not such a field where people can add and edit general info.

What if Wikipedia doesn't allow you to edit an article and you only can comment on things? I hope my point is clear now.

I rather see clean info than reading a lot of comments that results in the same info but with a lot of noise.

Comments are for commenting on a release, not for documentation and facts. Documentation should be editable by everyone. Such "release info" field is missing now for a release.
2014-02-21 11:29
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Quote: you only see one problem, there are some comments or trivia that are now obsoleted, like ppl reporting a tune missing in HVSC, or our notes on ripped tunes to avoid multiple reports of stuff already processed. but this is getting old, if you prefer to have useless comments cluttering the entries, your choice, I won't care anymore.

Adding a couple of new comments which contain relevant info about a release is regarded as cluttering?

Please don't understand me wrong, I'm not trying to be sarcastic or insulting. But, I'm really interested in an example where the disabled edit caused a problem that couldn't be solved with adding another comment or two containing updates, news or a list of revisions considering the release (and that it caused clutter or a mess of some kind).
2014-02-21 11:38
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Quoting Fred
What if Wikipedia doesn't allow you to edit an article and you only can comment on things? I hope my point is clear now.

I rather see clean info than reading a lot of comments that results in the same info but with a lot of noise.

Comments are for commenting on a release, not for documentation and facts. Documentation should be editable by everyone. Such "release info" field is missing now for a release.

The difference is, Wikipedia has public history/revisions, so you could see what and when was changed by whom.

But I have to agree that disabling the edit in the Production Notes section too didn't make much of a sense to me either.
2014-02-21 12:37
Fred

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 298
Quoting Jailbird
I'm really interested in an example where the disabled edit caused a problem that couldn't be solved with adding another comment or two containing updates, news or a list of revisions considering the release (and that it caused clutter or a mess of some kind).


It's hard to give an example since editing was possible in the past.

E.g. this release:

Music-Assembler V1.0

I have added a comment that the link is invalid. If someone will restore the file and remove the bad link, then my comment should be removed because it doesn't make sense to preserve that kind of information.

Quoting Jailbird
The difference is, Wikipedia has public history/revisions, so you could see what and when was changed by whom.


True. Unfortunately CSDb doesn't have that information available to every user while the functionality is build for certain user roles. It would be nice if that would be available to everyone.
2014-02-21 12:43
Shine

Registered: Jul 2012
Posts: 388
Quoting Jailbird

The difference is, Wikipedia has public history/revisions, so you could see what and when was changed by whom.

That would be a milestone in the history of CSDb, if this "mustHave" feature will enabled soon.
2014-02-21 19:59
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11523
public history would be an extraordinate drama motor too, so bring it up! /o\
2014-02-21 22:41
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2972
yep, the drama would be flowing with public history on entries ...
2014-06-05 12:43
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1661
Maybe someone suggested it already, but I think the following approach to comment editing is quite nice:

At another forum where I tend to spend some time it is possible to edit posts for a few minutes after posting it, and then the edit button becomes inaccessible. Maybe that would work pretty well for comment editing. It allows you to fix errors that you discover at once, like those silly typos and whatever, but you still can't go back and "change history" and mess up discussions. (I am thinking mainly of comments now, and not about forum posts.)
2014-06-05 15:29
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11523
thats the way it'll be IF someone finds the time to do it :)
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