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Repose
Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 225 |
Ultimate reverse engineering
This person took 32 chips of every revision, connected them to a custom clock source and ran them independently, to read out the OSC3/ENV3 of every combination, plus analog recordings. He wrote an emulator which recreates every register setting and measures all the variations within and between chips. Its an amazing amount of work. He also reverse engineered CIA's as well, as those are needed for "real sid" type tunes, which require emulating the entire machine for music playback.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pePq68HaI7M
Emulating the SID the HARD way.
plgDavid
Here is one of the "torture test" tunes which require very accurate emulation of a specific model, it sounds amazing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVevORuyQ_8
Jammer - Club Stylier
Club Stylier
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Repose
Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 225 |
I agree with you, however the complaint was that my first link was to a 10 year old copy of VICE, and the next link was improved by being a recent emulator.
I did say "may be better" :)
I still haven't found an authentic recording of this tune. |
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McMeatLoaf
Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 108 |
Quote: I agree with you, however the complaint was that my first link was to a 10 year old copy of VICE, and the next link was improved by being a recent emulator.
I did say "may be better" :)
I still haven't found an authentic recording of this tune.
There is a recording of it in SOASC:
http://chuangtzu.ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/media/Oakvalley/soasc/hv.. |
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4mat
Registered: May 2010
Posts: 66 |
The recordings in the QA sections of the videos are from real SID chips. |
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4mat
Registered: May 2010
Posts: 66 |
The author of this plug-in used to be a scener back in the day and also worked on the c64 demo we made for it:
Chipsynth C64 Demo
But they don't seem to be able to get an account here. |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3193 |
Scener in which group? on the c64 or other platform? |
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4mat
Registered: May 2010
Posts: 66 |
On C64, with the handle Sneiv in the group P.I.S
He just posted a recording of real SID vs the plug-in with Jammer's "Club Styler":
https://soundcloud.com/chipsounds/jammer-club-stylier-rea-8580-.. |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3193 |
ok, no idea about that group (maybe just a local group)
Plogue
also added is old handle, and added him as gfxian for the demo |
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4mat
Registered: May 2010
Posts: 66 |
Thanks. |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3193 |
That said, I could only add the scener entry.
For the account, it's up to the mods |
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Repose
Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 225 |
Quote: ok, no idea about that group (maybe just a local group)
Plogue
also added is old handle, and added him as gfxian for the demo
That's really cool, just what I wanted to compare. It does sound pretty good, the combined waveforms and filters are working great.
There is another difficult comparison I could suggest for him. This sound doesn't play correctly in the current reSID:
https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/D/Deetsay/Raveloo..
You can hear it properly here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN6L9-TkHQ8 |
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