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2020-07-01 20:53
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1343
Event id #2967 : 25Hz Music Compo 2020

Welcome to the first and hopefully not the last edition of 25Hz Music Compo!

Basic premise is to create a piece of music with player that updates SID registers at rate of 25Hz or to put it in other words - every 2nd frame. There are very few tunes out there playing at such slow speed but maybe it's the right time to change it? :) Here are couple of examples:

Low Frequency
Half-Funk


Compo rules:

1. No covers and remixes allowed.
2. No upper limit for playtime.
3. No limit of tunes per author but playtime of each has to be at least 2 minutes.
4. Use any editor that allows you to use such playback rate or go for custom player if you need. Goat Tracker surely offers 25Hz playback (Multispeed 0).

Good luck and have fun! <3
 
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2020-08-11 11:01
booker
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Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 334
I kinda feel sorry for these folks manipulating their votes right before voting deadline. If you feel so insecure you have to do it, grab me on next time you see me, I'll give you a hug.
2020-08-11 11:08
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3238
It's the nth demonstration that csdb shouldn't be used for online compos, votes are too easy to be manipulated by the usual anonymous downvoters (and upvoters fanbois to be fair).
2020-08-11 11:26
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1343
I haven't used CSDb average, to clarify ;) Next time I might stick entirely to squared population per vote value in my calculations - it effectively weeds out single votes without nasty side effects ;) It's #^2 column in results sheet.
2020-08-11 11:48
spider-j

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 505
I haven't followed all the votes in detail, but tbh. I find it quite harsh to speak of "manipulation".

I see from the votes I got, that someone probably toggled his/her/its vote back and forth +/- 1 point – which could just be because for some people compo voting is different than "general" voting and you often end up comparing entries with one another.

It's really not the fault of undecided people that the vote participation is so low that toggling +/- 1 point leads to .2 difference in average.

Chillax folks: all those great tunes are here to stay :-)
2020-08-11 11:51
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11523
for compo you need ordered voting, because what spider said - the absolute votes on csdb are terrible for this. and that you can see the averages while you vote makes it even more terribly useless :) also who cares.
2020-08-11 11:54
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1343
Quoting spider-j
I haven't followed all the votes in detail, but tbh. I find it quite harsh to speak of "manipulation".


Believe me, this scener changes e.g. 7 to 4 (or 9 to 5) right before deadline and restores votes later. Actually, I know who he is and he does it everytime he or his friends participate in music compos. I leave it up to his conscience - it's not my role to teach anyone how to behave like a civil person ;)
2020-08-11 11:58
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11523
Psycho voting, it works before - see above - the results are displayed prematurely. It's quite effective to vote "bad" on your own release, for example - because some ppl then feel they have to "correct" this. (and the other way around). and indeed, it is quite common.
2020-08-11 12:12
spider-j

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 505
Quoting Jammer
Actually, I know who he is

Ok, well then, if you know: forget what I said about the "undecided". I just try thinking the most positive way about something until I know all of the facts :-)
2020-08-11 12:45
booker
Account closed

Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 334
Quoting spider-j
I haven't followed all the votes in detail, but tbh. I find it quite harsh to speak of "manipulation".

Changing vote from 7 to 4 just before the clock hit midnight, and back from 4 to 7 afterwards is manipulative. Yes, we know, we've been taking web snapshots :)

Quoting Groepaz

the results are displayed prematurely.


How about CSDb providing a way to organise compos with non-premature vote display? And options for results - ie. with standard average, and what Jammer was looking at - the square root thingy?
2020-08-11 12:47
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11523
You should know it wont happen
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