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2007-02-25 21:35
ptoing

Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271
VIC20, +4, C16 and so on

I think it would be nice to have all Commodore 8 bit machines on the CSDb, it might even generate more demos and stuff for the less common systems.
 
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2007-03-02 11:32
Ninja

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 411
For what it (=this discussion ;)) is worth, option 2 is my favourite.
2007-03-02 12:30
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: 3 is my favorite, 2 is the harsh reality, and 1 would be a backstep.
dunno if +4 folks are interested in 4, but instead of 5 and 6, people can just write links in their trivia.
just my 0.02 €


It's not about links, it's about providing a structured environment to put your information in.

Now, what I really don't get: why would it not be okay to add pc & amiga stuff as well, if filters are introduced that create views on the different platforms? If I can check a box to make sure that I don't see any Vic20 stuff, Tao could check a box to make sure he doesn't see any amiga stuff, right?

I know people like to think I'm just trolling around 'coz I ask the hard questions, but nobody has given me any good answers yet.
2007-03-02 12:33
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094
because we dont want them. just like you dont want anything but c64.
2007-03-02 12:37
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: because we dont want them. just like you dont want anything but c64.

Still, if they could be hidden you don't have to see them. It's the exact same reasoning that's been used to convince me to make the csdb open for vic20 etc.

I can come up with only one conclusion: you guys are full of shit.
2007-03-02 12:38
yago

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 333
TDJ: I understand that you are more focussing on the social aspects of the scene, and thats fine and good.
But if you also allow upload of pc-demos, 1 pc-demo would take as much space as ca. 400 c64 demos...
Furthermore, we dont want to put too much workload on perff, and the vic20 option would mean very few additional work.
And as a third reason, there is already a platform for pcs, but no platform for the vic20 scene.
2007-03-02 12:47
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: TDJ: I understand that you are more focussing on the social aspects of the scene, and thats fine and good.
But if you also allow upload of pc-demos, 1 pc-demo would take as much space as ca. 400 c64 demos...
Furthermore, we dont want to put too much workload on perff, and the vic20 option would mean very few additional work.
And as a third reason, there is already a platform for pcs, but no platform for the vic20 scene.


Yago, I don't care about the files (disable upload for pc & amiga demos), I just want the information. And you can use the exact same datamodel for the c64 demos as for the other stuff. Furthermore, yes, there may be a platform for pc (pouet) but it doesn't provide me with the same rich data that csdb does.
2007-03-02 12:48
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094
TDJ, in my first reply to you in this thread I told you that this is only about taste no need to try to reasoning.
2007-03-02 12:57
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
Comparing the Amiga and PC scene to VIC-20 scene is not correct, as proven earlier.
Because ALL VIC-20 sceners are also part of the C64 scene. But there is no 1-on-1 relation like that between Amiga/PC-scene and C64 scene.

If you want social structures, one could think of a feature added to the profile: "Releases on other platforms".
Underneath the user could add the names of the productions, with credits and perhaps a link to an external download.

No need to mention Amiga or PC, because it could well be Atari, Mac or any other machine then.

Quote:
I can come up with only one conclusion: you guys are full of shit.

That is not a very mature way of reasoning, TDJ. Let's keep it civilised, please.
2007-03-02 12:58
yago

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 333
TDJ, well the amount of scener from c64->vic20 is prolly much smaller then c64->pc..
look at the "new platform" vic20 as a testcase, IF perff implements it, we can iron out the errors, before pc-sceners invade csdb (some of them are pretty braindead, considering pouet)

however, this whole thread is nothing more then hot air, if perff is against it :-)
2007-03-02 13:19
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
Well, before Perff finds anything of this, I suggest we first unite into one idea.
As long as 'we, the users' can't figure out what we want, why should Perff even bother looking into it?
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