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Trap
Registered: Jul 2010
Posts: 223 |
Vice Tribute gone
Hi,
I assume some admin removed our latest release, Vice Tribute. I am puzzled why this happened and why I wasn't informed?
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3187 |
I suggest to make a gif with both how it looks on Vice debug borders, and the largest image taken from real HW.
If that's so fucking important... Screenshots are not the release, for me it's just splitting the hair in 4 all this matter. |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4723 |
Quote: I suggest to make a gif with both how it looks on Vice debug borders, and the largest image taken from real HW.
If that's so fucking important... Screenshots are not the release, for me it's just splitting the hair in 4 all this matter.
Already made a gif as a compromise. :) And yes: It's relevant since the emulator-killing releases by emulamer, because we would like screenshots reflecting what the real thing would show, and not what an emulator might show. Otherwise are entering a slippery slope road away from the real machine into the dark realms of emulation only. Only real hw is the standard. ;) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
Didn't even know the real thing shows a tiny vertical grey line on the right side =) |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 659 |
When a release causes a debate about "where does this go?" .. "how do we show a screenshot for this?" you know it's a good release :-)
Now many others are looking for ways to break CSDB I wonder?
:-) |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3187 |
Raistlin: be aware that some tried and got banned.
Have fun. |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 659 |
I don't mean to literally -break- CSDB.. I just mean to release C64 things that are edge cases that don't fit into the various buckets of releases (like Bonzai's demo here - though I agree with Trap that it -is- a C64 demo.. "debug borders" gives a different view of EVERY demo after all). |
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Smasher
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 519 |
Quote: I don't mean to literally -break- CSDB.. I just mean to release C64 things that are edge cases that don't fit into the various buckets of releases (like Bonzai's demo here - though I agree with Trap that it -is- a C64 demo.. "debug borders" gives a different view of EVERY demo after all).
I have debug borders on in my vice settings as default since ages. I only change it back to normal border if I should take a screenshot. it's... funny :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
There are actually a couple demos that have things in the invisible area so you can only see them when tweaking the monitor. Graham would know which :/ |
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Compyx
Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 631 |
Quoting ZeSmasherI have debug borders on in my vice settings as default since ages. I only change it back to normal border if I should take a screenshot. it's... funny :)
I use full border both for watching and developing stuff, it's the closest I can get to what my Philips CM8833 showed. VICE's full border shows a bit more, so some of my old demos have 'bugs', such as sprite garbage way up in the upper border, or non-covered left sideborder when doing a sideborder scroller with the usual 4 sprites.The later can be 'fixed' by using 5 sprites and $d011 trickery like Krill did, but that's a lot of work for something that doesn't show on the real deal with an old CRT. |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2969 |
Quoting Compyxor non-covered left sideborder when doing a sideborder scroller with the usual 4 sprites.The later can be 'fixed' by using 5 sprites and $d011 trickery like Krill did, but that's a lot of work for something that doesn't show on the real deal with an old CRT. I guess you're referring to the intro of Vandalism News #34 - i went through the trouble of having 5 sideborder sprites specifically because my 1084S shows everything on the left including the blindingly white sync burst stripe (which i keep adjusted to just under the left bezel edge). =) |
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