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madcrow
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Looking for GFX and CODE for a game...
I've had a brilliant idea for a graphical adventure game for the C64, but am totally incompetent at pixeling and coding. Therefore I ask the help of the scene to make the best C64 adevture game ever. I have a plot written and am planning on writing the script, I just need somebody to either point out or code a nice graphics enigine (a la Maniac Mansion or Zak McCracken) and draw some graphics. I will wrie the script, design the gameplay, etc. More info about the plot and stuffa available on request.
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
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OK, this is not meant to flame you, but just as an interesting question, considering that apart from MM & Zak there aren't SCUMM-style engines anywhere on the C64 (and especially not by scene members), did you think somewhere there was an engine in "hiding"? :)
Timeframe doesn't really matter, it could be expected that even if you found a coder, at least year, possibly several would pass anyway before there was a well-working engine & system to support it. So you wouldn't be much worse off learning yourself. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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mmmh aeg showed me a scumm-alike game he has started a long time ago....wasnt that ever released? *shrug*
whatever, such kind of engine isnt really that hard to write, the biggest problem on c64 would be fitting a reasonable amount of objects into memory :) |
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Nafcom
Registered: Apr 2002
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Quote: mmmh aeg showed me a scumm-alike game he has started a long time ago....wasnt that ever released? *shrug*
whatever, such kind of engine isnt really that hard to write, the biggest problem on c64 would be fitting a reasonable amount of objects into memory :)
No, 48 Hours wasn't ever released.
Look here:
48 hours Preview +T |
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madcrow
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Quote: OK, this is not meant to flame you, but just as an interesting question, considering that apart from MM & Zak there aren't SCUMM-style engines anywhere on the C64 (and especially not by scene members), did you think somewhere there was an engine in "hiding"? :)
Timeframe doesn't really matter, it could be expected that even if you found a coder, at least year, possibly several would pass anyway before there was a well-working engine & system to support it. So you wouldn't be much worse off learning yourself.
Perhaps... Still, Quality games are needed sooner rather than later, so I'll make a quality game with tools I can use rather than tools that don't exist.
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cadaver
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Quote: mmmh aeg showed me a scumm-alike game he has started a long time ago....wasnt that ever released? *shrug*
whatever, such kind of engine isnt really that hard to write, the biggest problem on c64 would be fitting a reasonable amount of objects into memory :)
Ah, that doesn't seem to be a true SCUMM-engine anyway as there are no characters moving (yet) and no sign of correct Z-layering / foreground masking :) |
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madcrow
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Quote: Ah, that doesn't seem to be a true SCUMM-engine anyway as there are no characters moving (yet) and no sign of correct Z-layering / foreground masking :)
I guess that leaves the pseudo-SCUMM used for the C64 Lucasarts adventures as the only graphical adventure engine for C64... Sierra never could be bothered to port theirs...
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hannenz
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@madcrow:
let me hear about your ideas and maybe i could join the project (code & gfx)
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madcrow
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Quote: @madcrow:
let me hear about your ideas and maybe i could join the project (code & gfx)
The game goes as follows: in the far furure, an evil dictator has banned all fun things, including games. One day, a young man cleaning the attic comes across a mysterious blank motherboard from which most of the chips have been removed. Seeing only that it was made by Commodore, he sets out to find the missing parts (stuff like the various chips, etc) and ends up causing an entertainment revolution.
In short, this is whacked out interactive fiction at its finest/worst/whatever. If you're really interested in doing graphics, I'll have to warn you that the tool I'm planning on using can only handle graphics in its own custom format made in an in-program editor. The graphics themeselves are standard 4-color MC but are stored in some sort of pseudo-vector format. The program is Graphical Adventure Creator, if you care to look it up.
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
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Quote: OK, this is not meant to flame you, but just as an interesting question, considering that apart from MM & Zak there aren't SCUMM-style engines anywhere on the C64 (and especially not by scene members), did you think somewhere there was an engine in "hiding"? :)
Timeframe doesn't really matter, it could be expected that even if you found a coder, at least year, possibly several would pass anyway before there was a well-working engine & system to support it. So you wouldn't be much worse off learning yourself.
Please define SCUMM-like engine.
I mean, apart from MM and Zak, there were some games with a similar style. Murder on the Mississippi comes to mind first here. |
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
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OK, to be honest I'd define it in a quite extreme way, something that would be able to implement most features in Lucasfilm adventures..
- arbitrary shaped backgrounds with multiple Z-layers
- masking of sprites/objects when they go behind those layers
- scrolling
- smart pathfinding
- hugeass amount of data / text / rooms / animations possible -> need a nice memory manager and loadersystem, possibly non-DOS format to overcome directory size limit & lost space due to last sectors of files, IFFL is also fine
- scripted actions for NPCs etc.
- verb/noun interface as seen in SCUMM games
It may be that the original poster wouldn't even demand such engine, but it'd be better to blow the C64 scene away properly at once :) |
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