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2006-02-26 13:23
Scout

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Group id #223 : Protovision

There are some entries from Protovision that should be deleted from the database.
Those entries are commercial releases (without a downloadlink) and not scenereleases.

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2007-11-25 02:11
chatGPZ

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what twoflower said. csdb is not an advertising platform afterall.
2007-11-25 11:54
MacGyver
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CLiPS (beta preview) was actually not commercial but released for free on one of the cover disks of GO64! magazine.
The magazine itself was not free of course, but that's another cup of tea.

Some ppl have strange opinions here, like something which is not free can't be scene.
2007-11-25 11:59
chatGPZ

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there are probably a lot more people who find it strange that someone considers commercial games scene releases :)
2007-11-25 15:19
MorGorr
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What I find strange is that in the CSDb, introlinkers are generally more a lot more likely to be credited for a "release" than the original game creators even in the case of freeware games, but that's part of the concept it seems. Judging from the ever-repeating discussions about what's scene and what's not I also suspect this concept will never change.

I decided long ago to meet this with an I-don't-care attitude: Since this database honours introlinkers in the same way as game creators (or even more), the whole thing is a bit meaningless to me. There is no group entry for More.Gore Software, nor are there any entries for none of my original releases (both freeware and payware) and I don't feel too motivated to open them either.

PTV should do the same: Why should you care? After all, having entries for the PTV payware originals means being at the same level as the retard introlinking scene. This is not a game creators' database.
2007-11-25 15:27
chatGPZ

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Quote:
This is not a game creators' database.


exactly
2007-11-25 16:27
TNT
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Shouldn't Commodore Christmas Demo be removed too. "The perfect holiday gift - only $595"...
2007-11-25 16:37
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3057
Quote: Shouldn't Commodore Christmas Demo be removed too. "The perfect holiday gift - only $595"...

That's not made by PTV. ;)

P.S.: German sceners and their personal animosities...
2007-11-25 21:11
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
Quote: Shouldn't Commodore Christmas Demo be removed too. "The perfect holiday gift - only $595"...

if you check the rules, you will notice that we made an explicit exception for commercial demos. simply because they are somewhat of a curiosity, and because there are so few of them. (that is very different with commercial games)
2007-11-25 22:45
d0c

Registered: Apr 2006
Posts: 186
Quote: Shouldn't Commodore Christmas Demo be removed too. "The perfect holiday gift - only $595"...

you read what Groepaz said, eh?.... now eat your words! :P
2007-11-26 00:48
MorGorr
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The rules say that a crack is basically any modified version of an existing game even it does not add any value, and that the CSDb "very much prefers" freeware "cracks" over the originals that are "available anyway" although they understand that some individuals started to release original games directly to the scene, which could therefore exceptionally be considered scene releases.

The rules also state that whining about the rules is prohibited.

Well let's get out of here then.
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