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BAR.
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Release id #49248 : Presence Packerpack (fixed)
Hello and welcome,
as you could read in the statemens and in my infos about the release. This is a bugfix. The stock is dead but the bugs still around us... ;)
The Stock
Violator's comment is a welcome to me.
Because i asked myself the same question.
Please before you answer here check some of the fixes,
Dizzy Devil or others did for the stock and now this one.
Because my question is to you all:
HOW TO ADD A BUGFIXED VERSION TO CSDB ?
1. add all infos about..
2. add only bugfix and your group
3. don't add bugfix stuff beware for your own and friends..
4. which releasedate ? (Day of bugfixed, day of original..)?
4. own ideas how to do that ?
OK, feel free to post your comments,
so that i can learn what today counts..
As some guys at CSDB are irritated by myself,
i'm really sorry about but i was irritated by you, too.
The onces who know me better, know that i hate so called wars and any kind of that shit, which is called ELITE or
something like that...
PEACE to anyone in 2007 loving the Commodore 64/128 !
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: I agree with you Groepaz. But if we say that the alterations were made under fair-use and the credit was given where credit was due, the fixers still can get credit for the fixing.
The authors get the credit for the software, the fixers for the fixing.
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And even when german law wouldn't count with "fair-use", I'm sure it's decent way how to handle the current situation of having fixes made without permission from the authors.
yes ofcourse, noone wants to "steal" credit from them. i was only answering to that weird "you cant upload it here because we sold it" statement :) |
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chatGPZ
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Quote: I agree with you Groepaz. But if we say that the alterations were made under fair-use and the credit was given where credit was due, the fixers still can get credit for the fixing.
The authors get the credit for the software, the fixers for the fixing.
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And even when german law wouldn't count with "fair-use", I'm sure it's decent way how to handle the current situation of having fixes made without permission from the authors.
yes ofcourse, noone wants to "steal" credit from them. i was only answering to that weird "you cant upload it here because we sold it" statement :) |
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BAR.
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Quote: yes ofcourse, noone wants to "steal" credit from them. i was only answering to that weird "you cant upload it here because we sold it" statement :)
ok, but as the stock was never a scene group you understand now what i mean... ?! |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: As you can see this is a bugfix version done by Dizzy Devil.
This is also like you would like to have it..
What's wrong now ?
(sorry for doubleposting, i accidently hit reload...)
the entry should just look like any other silicon ltd entry, with release group set to silicon ltd and proper credits (and yes ofcourse, that includes dizzy devil for bugfixing - no more no less) |
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Trazan
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..and if it wasnt a scenegroup - delete the entry.
This IS the SCENE database! |
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BAR.
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Quote: ..and if it wasnt a scenegroup - delete the entry.
This IS the SCENE database!
OK if you as an admin said that... |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: ok, but as the stock was never a scene group you understand now what i mean... ?!
But fixing a scene release by non-scene group doesn't make it non-scene release. Only authors can change that status (by e.g. selling it to the software house for commercial purposes), and still scene still can claim the release being a scene release. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: ok, but as the stock was never a scene group you understand now what i mean... ?!
no, i don't.
by your logic, "the stock" should be simply completely removed alltogether (because, hey, its not a scene group).
mind you, thats not what i think. unless what you mean is that the only purpose of "the stock" was to make money with selling altered scene productions, then it definetly deserves to be removed.
the releases on the other hand would be still a different thing, they are scene productions and belong here (properly credited ofcourse) |
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Trazan
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Quote: OK if you as an admin said that...
Admin - Moderator?
Do you actually think you will get a approval from Perff as sole Admin for this entry?
Instead of arguing about just bascially everything, wouldnt it be easier to actually remove this - as it doesnt belong on Csdb?!
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BAR.
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Quote: no, i don't.
by your logic, "the stock" should be simply completely removed alltogether (because, hey, its not a scene group).
mind you, thats not what i think. unless what you mean is that the only purpose of "the stock" was to make money with selling altered scene productions, then it definetly deserves to be removed.
the releases on the other hand would be still a different thing, they are scene productions and belong here (properly credited ofcourse)
As the leader or organizer i can say
"We sold that to help diskmags, other users.."
If i'm right you care about the releases but not for the groups, the people, storys behind like f.e. Yoko.TV right ?
As i understand CSDB they care.. |
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