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chatGPZ
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Release id #5065 : More Than NOPs
a) this one is called (and spelled) "More than NOPs". (look at digi part).
b) this is not a taboo release
whoever insists on changing it back to whatever else, just dont.
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wreg
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could you please stop knitpicking!
it doesnt really matter how it is written here in the db!
could we just be grateful to that aka field i just filled as long as this is kinda 'unsolved'??
anyway, we shouldn't add releases as they were titled anyway, especially on cracks we do not want this, because you would be unable to find anything if you just copied 'mistakes'/whatever done by the crackers :) |
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assiduous
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1. "More Than NOPs" is a title! It's not a sentence. Learn the difference and as soon as you have done it you will understand that "sentence style" is irrelevent here anyway. look at how they do it in Imdb, in gb64, in hvsc - its always "Than" uppercase unless explicitly and what is even more important *unambiguously* stated otherwise. If in doubt the correct English spelling is always used (if someone from gb64 or hvsc could confirm it please do so).
2.The note is a part of the production and contains valid and accurate info about the production! It's as much as important as what's written in the demo. If the demo stated that the code was done by MSS and the note said it was MMS then i can assume that you would create a new handle "MSS"? God forbid that anyone makes a typo in a demo!
3. So what we have here is 2 valid and equally reliable sources (the note and the demo). Therefore it's a doubtful situation. But the general rules of spelling English titles favours the former. And what is crucial, an additional direct source confirms the former to be correct. Sorry, it's 3:1 to Than.
4. about the examples you have brought up. they are not fitting here because they explicitly state that haujobb and tough released these productions. situation here is completely different because the authors themselves acknowledge that this is a Taboo release! and comankh confirms this! for gods sake, this is 2 people directly responsible for the production + a witness stating the obvious and you still cant accept it.
5. there are 100s of productions having no info about groups that released them ( how many pictures for instance have this kind of info ? ) OK you might argue that a demo is a different category than a picture but if theres no info in the demo about the name of the group that released it then you should trust the authors. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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put the "correct" spelling into "aka" then. IMHO "we" have no right whatsoever to correct "mistakes" like this.
Quote:If in doubt the correct English spelling is always used
why dont you check the link wreg posted, and which i repeated? there is no single "correct" spelling for titles. |
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TDJ
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Quote: could you please stop knitpicking!
it doesnt really matter how it is written here in the db!
could we just be grateful to that aka field i just filled as long as this is kinda 'unsolved'??
anyway, we shouldn't add releases as they were titled anyway, especially on cracks we do not want this, because you would be unable to find anything if you just copied 'mistakes'/whatever done by the crackers :)
Wow .. danger, Will Robinson! Please do not try to handle cracks & demos in the same way.
Furthermore I do agree with Groepaz: please don't try to correct spelling mistakes. For example, Bigger Then Life - The Return should not be called Bigger Than Life, and all those releases with the word rythm in them should keep their (faulty) name as well. |
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assiduous
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wreg: its pretty important to sort it out. This situation shows how much Groepaz feels that being in charge entitles him to put the word of authors in doubt. About the group, he's in a totally lost position i reckon.
About the title:I have given 2 specific valid reasons why a more common and correct title should be used, he gave 1.
The Dark Judge: thank your for your input but unless you come up with a production that has an ambiguous title (which means 2 titles used, one being misspelt, the other not) i'm afraid you're offtopicking here. |
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TDJ
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Quote: wreg: its pretty important to sort it out. This situation shows how much Groepaz feels that being in charge entitles him to put the word of authors in doubt. About the group, he's in a totally lost position i reckon.
About the title:I have given 2 specific valid reasons why a more common and correct title should be used, he gave 1.
The Dark Judge: thank your for your input but unless you come up with a production that has an ambiguous title (which means 2 titles used, one being misspelt, the other not) i'm afraid you're offtopicking here.
Sorry dude, but I was reacting to something wreg said:
Quoting wreganyway, we shouldn't add releases as they were titled anyway
He said that as part of the discussion, I disagree with him. Hence, I don't feel I'm offtopic.
Well, now I am but still ;) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote:
wreg: its pretty important to sort it out. This situation shows how much Groepaz feels that being in charge entitles him to put the word of authors in doubt. About the group, he's in a totally lost position i reckon.
i say it again, the only thing that matters is the disc with the production. does the note say they made a spelling mistake in the demo? that could convince me. other than that, why would i favour whats written in the note over whats written in the production itself? |
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assiduous
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Quote: Sorry dude, but I was reacting to something wreg said:
Quoting wreganyway, we shouldn't add releases as they were titled anyway
He said that as part of the discussion, I disagree with him. Hence, I don't feel I'm offtopic.
Well, now I am but still ;)
Well I must have misunderstood you then and I apologize but it would have helped if you had written "I do agree with wreg" instead of "I do agree with groepaz". |
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TDJ
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Quote: Well I must have misunderstood you then and I apologize but it would have helped if you had written "I do agree with wreg" instead of "I do agree with groepaz".
Well, I do agree with Groepaz about not correcting spelling mistakes and I don't agree with wreg about handling games & demos the same way and y'all make my head hurt. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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<Post edited by chatGPZ on 20/1-2008 22:28>
we probably also shouldnt correct all the credits for the entries radar created and not bother with looking at the actual productions at all. afterall he is one of the "authors" and must know it better than anyone else. (now does THAT make your head hurt ? =D)
or in more serious words: it doesnt matter when KM and MMS considered themselves as beeing "taboo". what matters is when "taboo" released their first production, which _states_ beeing a "taboo" release. this is similar to 1001 claiming to have made the first open border scroller, although they didnt make the first release. it doesnt matter when they made it, what matters is when they released it. |
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