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Mr SQL
Registered: Feb 2023
Posts: 137 |
Blues
Are there any new Blues compositions or existing covers on the SID?
Or anything like the algorithmic composition in BallBlazer for the Atari 400/800 which is not in the C64 version? |
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AüMTRöN
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 44 |
/MUSICIANS/T/Tonal_Teapot/Ubiks_Musik.sid song 4 is still the most bluesy thing I heard on C64. It's not exactly blues, but it does have a few I/IV/V in it, and the lead is somewhat improvised sounding. It eventually ends up in a out-of-sync cacophony, but it still rules hard.
Quote:blues as a genre relies heavily on expression and not composition, therefore doesn't make much sense stiffly programmed
This. I've tried to write blues on sid and it quickly feels pointless. |
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Mr SQL
Registered: Feb 2023
Posts: 137 |
Quote: /MUSICIANS/T/Tonal_Teapot/Ubiks_Musik.sid song 4 is still the most bluesy thing I heard on C64. It's not exactly blues, but it does have a few I/IV/V in it, and the lead is somewhat improvised sounding. It eventually ends up in a out-of-sync cacophony, but it still rules hard.
Quote:blues as a genre relies heavily on expression and not composition, therefore doesn't make much sense stiffly programmed
This. I've tried to write blues on sid and it quickly feels pointless.
This has a nice sound.
This Jazz piece by Glenn Gallefoss is inspiring too:
https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/B/Blues_Muz/Galle..
This one is nice too:
https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/B/Bayliss_Richard..
Agree Blues is very challenging on the SID, I working on the Blues algorithm on the Atari too. Blues might be a genre the less advanced Atari sound chip is better at, jury is still out... |
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ws
Registered: Apr 2012
Posts: 251 |
so, i'm just asking because i am really unsure, but this is some kind of blues right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3QcdOsM9Io (Mikie Title)
Totally love that tune.
Like Boogie-Woogie Blues or something? |
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Mr SQL
Registered: Feb 2023
Posts: 137 |
Quote: so, i'm just asking because i am really unsure, but this is some kind of blues right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3QcdOsM9Io (Mikie Title)
Totally love that tune.
Like Boogie-Woogie Blues or something?
Yes this has a blues feel, closest I have seen so far on the SID. Very cool! |
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Mr SQL
Registered: Feb 2023
Posts: 137 |
Quote: > perhaps Blues genre characteristics are particularly hard
> for the subtractive analogue synth?
no, but blues as a genre relies heavily on expression and not composition, therefore doesn't make much sense stiffly programmed. if there are exceptions - they utilize blues characteristics (rhythm, licks), but emphasize songwriting aspect. you're warmly welcome to come up with a proper algo which generates blues, that could be an interesting challenge.
Here's my algorithm for the Blues from the Silly Venture Art Festival in Gdansk this weekend:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iahkNyHnnKk
Interestingly the algorithm that allows this program to run on the Commodore 64 has an unexpected side effect of changing the Blues Sound to Jazz. I will be releasing it at a C64 demo party soon.
Here's my recent entry from Transmission64 with Jazz and modernist music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJNeu97_YW0 |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
Not every Kakophonie qualifies as Jazz though |
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Mr SQL
Registered: Feb 2023
Posts: 137 |
Quote: Not every Kakophonie qualifies as Jazz though
Some people feel some modernist music is a cacophony because we are not used to hearing quarter tones. I tried to keep the modernist measures melodic.
What did you think of the pure Jazz measures in the piece?
If you like them you will like my next release which is all Jazz like that with no modernism. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
There is nothing "Jazz" in there really. Just semi random blobs of noise. |
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Mr SQL
Registered: Feb 2023
Posts: 137 |
Here's a video of my Jazz Improv algorithms for the BASIC10Liner contest in March, and the link to the CSDB download:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yIfEdMXUWQ
GateCrasher Jazz Improv
There are two different algorithms that change up after making it through the gauntlet.
Hope some CSDB musicians will try out the new BASIC this program is written in. It has a programmable score and Music commands for a built in Tracker Sequencer. |
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Hate Bush
Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 465 |
grandma always told me to be positive, so i will not comment on musical merit and say instead that from programming standpoint it _may_be_ excellent. |
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