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2006-05-06 21:39
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
A thought ..

Hi all,

i was thinking about a idea i had a the other day while i was on http://remix.kwed.org. You all might know the site, its a c64 remixer platform with nice rating and commenting system. The whole thing is linked with http://www.remix64.com/ and forms a great community platform for the entire c64 remixing scene (strictly mp3 and studio-driven or vst based remixes). Ive submitted a couple of remixes there myself.

The reason im mentioning this is, i am missing something like this for the native c64 composing scene. Im sure there are plenty of people out there who still compose natively on the c64 (or emulator / goattracker).

You might say, we allready have HVSC. Dont get me wrong, HVSC is great and i highly admire and value the work the guys have done there.

The thing is, HVSC is kind of static. More recent composers are usually just an extension to the VARIOUS/... branch of the next HVSC update. If im not in a curious mood, i seldomly go wandering through the various branch unless im looking for something specific.

It would even be a great addition to things like HSVSC and CSDB if connected similar to remix.kwed.org and c64remix.com.

I was actually thinking about trying to set up something myself, with some PHP & MySQL implementation (im a half decent PHP coder). Im not sure though if a project like this isnt a little to ambitious for one person.

I would like to hear a few opinions about something like this from other sid related folks. So if anyone feels like discussing the idea i would be happy to hear from you.

Cheers
 
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2006-05-09 14:21
Yodelking

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 189
Quote: Blasphemy!! martin & rob = god :-)

Personal opinions are permitted though, hehe.


Funny you mention it, Blasphemy is actually one of my favourites! ;)
/VARIOUS/A-F/AMJ/Blasphemy.sid
2006-05-09 18:53
Ben
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Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 163
Great idea! Making it accessible & organized decentralized would relieve maintainers from a sure burden + it will greatly contribute to the completeness.. Furthermore, I like the idea of the database being dynamic.

While you are at it: add multiple categories to vote for (sounds, melody, overall, innovativity, harmony et cetera), tune specs (e.g. duration, SID version), the STIL data (and hook it into search functionality), links to composer information and add both the .sid and a .prg file..

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Certainly this composers.c64.org site has a couple of the ideas I just mentioned already in place
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2006-05-09 20:48
psych

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 141
I propose another idea. It would be nice to see something like a competition where people could cast their votes and opinions on new tunes. Maybe some kind of ranking (charts) system could be good. what do you all think ?
2006-05-10 07:06
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
Thats basicly a part of the whole thing :-) i want to adapt the rating / commenting systems as seen on http://remix.kwed.org
2006-05-10 16:21
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094
IMHO it would make more sense to do this as a "sub section" of CSDB. If someone wants to really make this then he should start negotiations with Perff, and do the suitable interface(s) for the existing CSDB database.

- new sids could be right away uploaded to csdb, and noone stops you from adding the existing entries from HVSC. So we have the best from both sides: you can enter all the informations on csdb and be up to date, whilst using the existing HVSC collection.

- a few new querys could be added to csdb like: latest tunes, latest tune reviews, top of the week/month/all time, old/new sid search, etc., anything one can came up with.
2006-05-10 17:05
Bamu®
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Registered: May 2005
Posts: 1332
This sounds very interesting!
Go on, go on! ;)
2006-05-10 17:13
psych

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 141
Yes! This sound really good !
2006-05-10 17:38
Bamu®
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Registered: May 2005
Posts: 1332
Good idea!
2006-05-10 18:36
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
Sounds good! We're thinking about doing kind of a HVSC/SID portal for ages now, but couldn't find time or motivation so far. I also wanted to incorporate HVSC paths into CSDb rather early at the launch of CSDb, but it didn't really meet prominent support. Whatever you may decide and whoever may want to take on the project, I'd be into investing some spare time into this. So feel free to get back to me when things start moving.
2006-05-12 10:44
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
I see this rather as a separate entity than being a subsection of CSDb / HVSC.
It would still be heavily interlinked with HVSC, CSDb and composers.c64.org but operating in its own domain, the focus entirely on SID Composers and their work.

If it would be incorporated into CSDb im afraid it would go under inbetween the 'normal' releases and everything else.

The sole target is the current and active SID composing scene. Older compositions could be incorporated into the charts and such, but the main focus should be a platform for the present day composers and their compositions.
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