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2007-01-09 19:39
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
New SID frontend released !!

Hello fellow C64 freaks!

I just wanted to let you know that there is a new SID frontend available to the public now. It has features no other SID tool offers since today:

* Support Sidplay2/w for playback
* Support TinySID for playback
* Easy access to the entire High Voltage Sid Collection
* Easy single-click interface
* Songlength database support
* Continuous play to discover SIDs unknown to you
* Playlist support with ability to add certain subsongs
* Experimental sid2midi support (sid2midi.exe not included)
* Built in search function
* Build on .NET framework 2.0 (required)

Steppe from HVSC suggested i shall promote it here. So did i. Hope you like it.

http://sidtool.drool.de/

Regards,
Madman
 
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2007-01-11 19:37
Spinball

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 87
vice has build in sid playback "x64 -vsid filename.sid" but i have no idea how to change the subsong. Hoxs64 has build in sidplay too. And some guys claim it has the best 8510 emulation around.

p.s.: great you are working on vice integration
2007-01-11 19:49
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
Oh thanks a bunch for that Info. I used PSID to crate a PRG and then launch vice with that PRG.
The -vsid parameter is not listed in the commandline list.
Will check that out right now :-)
2007-01-12 10:30
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
Well, im done with Vice support.
(Edit: Means you can download that from the Website)
I suggest to set some settings in the options first.
By default i set vice to what i find in the Sid header.
(I hope i get the info right there)
2007-01-17 19:14
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
For your Info:

Beta 0.9.0 released.

‘Added advanced search to search the SID Header info
(as Steppe suggested)
‘Added PlayList sorting
‘Now using TinySID 0.996 Final
‘SIDPlay2/W default again for subsong support

http://sidtool.drool.de
2007-01-17 19:53
Vai

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 50
I like the front-end, nice way to search through the collection, But I like a few corrections.

- Remember which player to the play the sid's;
- On a second monitor the mousepointer get's jumpy after playing a sid, the x coordinate is reset to the outmost left of the second screen, it's annoying.
- Sometimes when you select a subtune it is not played, you have to go to another subtune and try again, or stop -> play.
2007-01-17 20:04
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
Thanks for your feedback!

- Remembering Player used - noted for next update.
- Cant reproduce that bug on a single-monitor desktop, sorry :-( I guess thats a .net framework bug, i dont alter nor question the mouse coordinates in any way. Will try to lend a 2nd monitor and look into that.
- I noted, that sometimes the sidplayer is not launched. I havent found out yet, was causes this. But doubleclicking the tune in the SID List should re-start the current selected (sub)song
2007-01-17 23:33
tora
Account closed

Registered: Jun 2005
Posts: 6
Hi!

Nice work! :)

Could I suggest more 'search' options, like look for the keywords on the STIL comments? I think it would be useful to find covers and such. Also enabling the STIL box to be resized will become handy when showing large texts.

I got a 'crash'. It does happens sometimes when doing a search:

See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at SidTool.Sidtool.HVSCFolderView_AfterSelect(Object sender, TreeViewEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.TreeView.OnAfterSelect(TreeViewEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.TreeView.TvnSelected(NMTREEVIEW* nmtv)
at System.Windows.Forms.TreeView.WmNotify(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.TreeView.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

I can paste the whole error text if you wish (I've removed the 'assemblies' listing to keep it short).

Regards.
2007-01-18 13:27
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
Hi tora!

Thanks for your feedback.
I have uploaded V0.9.1 which includes STIL searching support.
I fixed a few bugs too and resized the STIL info a little.
Things get a little more complex now with all this features added :) I usually try to play around with the tool a certain while prior uploading an update, but one cant imagine what other people try to do with it ;)

If that crash keeps coming up, please give me some more info:
- what kind of search ? (Simple, advanced or stil)
- What did you search for ?
- Any prior searches which may interfere ?

Mad


2007-01-18 14:49
tora
Account closed

Registered: Jun 2005
Posts: 6
Hi Madman!

Wow, that was fast! :D Thank you!

I've downloaded the new version, but that bug still appears. The main problem is that I can't reproduce it, seems to be pretty random.

For example, launch Sidtool, do a simple search for 'world', and that bug appeared. I quit the app, launch it again, repeat the search but the bug doesn't appears. Also I did several searches and seemed to work fine, but then again the bug showed after a while. Trying to repeat the same steps didn't make the bug to show.

The only thing I can say is that seems to be related with the composers list being updated.

Also I've found another bug but this one can be reproduced:

- Launch sidtool.
- Do a STIL search with the keyword 'Amiga'.
- See what happens ;)

I've uploaded the screenshot of that later bug, and the text of the previous one, zipped in one file here:

sidtool_crash_info.zip

I hope it helps. If you want me to try anything in particular or need more info just tell me!

Regards.

PD: I'm running on a (non-explosive) dell laptop, using windows xp home sp2, have the .net runtimes for 1.1 and 2.0 installed, and the hvsids is the latest (release 45).
2007-01-18 15:55
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
Yep, thats info i can work with. Thx :)

There are a few entries in the STIL, that contain general composer info. Thats with:

/VARIOUS/A-F/Eeben_Aleksi/
COMMENT: Well known composer on the Amiga, under the handle "Heatbeat".

In my tool i search the comment for amiga. i get a hit here, therefore i use the upper line to load the SID. But the Upper line has no filename, which caused the error when searching for Amiga. And i bet there are some more entries like this. Never noted those before.
I fixed that bug and re-uploaded the 0.9.1.

The bug in simple search doesnt appear for me it seems, i searched 10 mins straight for all kind of stuff but nothing happend. Did you use any continuous play before the bug in simple search appeared ? I will search on... :)
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