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2007-08-15 21:01
McMeatLoaf

Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 112
Useless(?) facts about sids

Do you know any facts about certain SIDs that is fairly unknown to others, like "That tune is tuned in A=442"?
Well, post it here...

The Thief (he eats beef) is tuned to (or at least sounds like) A=442.


 
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2007-08-16 20:01
j0x

Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 215
Oswald: This post illuminates the topic from a slightly different angle:

http://noname.c64.org/csdb/forums/?roomid=10&topicid=29489#29530

Edit: Also note the correction in http://noname.c64.org/csdb/forums/?roomid=10&topicid=29489#29532

Anorak?
2007-08-18 09:07
Laxity
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Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459
Does anyone know what these terms (CGKOTY, AEINRW, BFJOSX and DHLQV) actually stand for?

The first two letters seem to pin-point a 5th interval - A to E (INRW), B to F (JOSX), D to H (LQV) and C to G (KOTY)..

/me is confused!

EDIT: in european terms B is Bb, and H is B (non euro-term)..
2007-08-18 09:41
cadaver

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1163
It's the letters one sees when hex/ascii-dumping the frequency table memory region in a monitor, right?
2007-08-18 09:51
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 965
ah.. wow, I thought higher science was involved here, AEINRW.
2007-08-18 10:35
Laxity
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Damn.. That's it, isn't it?..
2007-08-18 10:40
Stryyker

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 469
It is that simple :)
2007-08-18 19:39
Turtle

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 70
And I didn't dare to ask... pfffffff!

But how comes that a handful types of freq-tables cover most sids ever done? Is it because of the use of the available editors? How does the pitching affect the mood of the tune? Do any phsychological studies about that exist? Did I just use the wrong pitch that I didn't become an über-composer?

** Have to detune my guitar **
2007-08-19 03:49
McMeatLoaf

Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 112
Another useless(?) fact:
/GAMES/S-Z/Soldier_One.sid is 1x except for the pulse width, which is modulated around 14x AFAIK, around 20x in subtune #13. :)
2007-08-20 08:59
Wisdom

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 91
McMeatLoaf, I just listened to Soldier One and it sounds more like plain single-speed. Perhaps you mixed it up because of frequent use of layered sounds? (Or perhaps it's my ears, as I have not checked the code.)

2007-08-20 13:22
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
Nah, it's probably analog to Fred Gray's (or was it Matt's?) player, which in the same playcall changes the pulsewidth lownibble several times, kind of like

lda pulsewidth
sta $d402
dec $d402
dec $d402
dec $d402
rts

Which would equal a 4-speed pw-change in the same playcall. Kind of what makes the Fred Gray sounds so peculiar.
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