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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11352 |
Trolley Follies
"The entry was deleted by a moderator on 2018-06-20 12:13:48+00 for reason: basic, not worthy"
until now, i always thought we are acting by the rule of "we dont judge quality" here. apparently that has changed now? please point me to the new rules that now define what is worthy and what is not. (and why this: http://www.blackcastlesoftware.com/games/trolleyFollies/ is not) thanks. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
how about this, what makes a basic game a scene release ? :) |
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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1335 |
Quoting iAN CooGIf I have to ask you permission or open a poll to hear what users think what's best to do my job in here, I'd rather quit.
iAN, with all respect to your so far great job in variou fields - your task here is allegedly to keep order, not play god doing whatever you and co-mods feel like doing. This site is not mods' property - you SERVE C64 community here, not own it. Right? Doing freelance in such rather impactful decisions like mass throwing out content is total lack of respect for others, simply. |
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Compyx
Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 631 |
(edit: response to Oswald)
When it's introlinked by one of the great cracking groups of today ofcourse.
But I wouldn't just reject BASIC. Properly using BASIC (ie abusing the hell out of the interpreter) is a valid coding skill. And might even defeat some asm entries for specific coding challenges. |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3186 |
Jammer: keep order, exactly what I did. Do you prefer that CSDb becomes the dumpster of wannabe basic lamers? Be my guest, you can have my mod position anytime. I'm rather tired of this debate already. |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2014 |
Don’t get defensive Ian. I’m sure most agree that your descision is fine. Just update the rules to make it clear. |
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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1335 |
I don't mind very cleansing - you do what you gotta do. I do mind it was a major decision and it wasn't transparent for people it affected. And what JackAsser said ;) |
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Mr.Ammo
Account closed
Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 228 |
Hmm... so, does this mean that CSDb is curated now instead of just an archive where none of the releases can be unreleased or deleted? Next time consider giving Bacchus a break when he wants to unrelease a buggy (= bad quality which is just as bad as a basic release) release of his.
Instead of deleting releases to prevent someone from gaining access to CSDb, why not re-evaluate this rule that once someone has a release on CSDb access is granted automatically. kill the root of your problem, deleting the symptoms won't solve your problem. You guys made up this rule and now you make all basic releases victim of your silly rule and all of this because you guys don't want this one dude have access to CSDb. Change the rule. Add that it doesn't count for basic-only releases or something like that and your problem is gone.
Also, please tell one of your mods that CGR BASIC Demos Competition 2018 doesn't belong here anymore. Before you know people are uploading new basic releases and the three of you need to delete them.
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11352 |
Quote:If I have to ask you permission or open a poll to hear what users think what's best to do my job in here, I'd rather quit.
you dont have to ask anyone for permission. however there should be clear rules that EVERYONE sticks to. because ONLY then the db can be run properly - when everyone KNOWS the rules AND sticks to them.
with certain individuals making up their arbitrary decisions whenever they feel like something is shit - the db simply can not work in a useful way.
and if you cant even tell the rule according to which those releases were deleted, and other releases can be tested on and eventually deleted too - then you already know that "rule" is pretty shit to begin with. |
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mankeli
Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 138 |
So since we are here and csdb is now palace of quality, should we also destroy
Kakkados
Pieru
Elvytyspaketti
Yleisradio Megademo
YLE is Radio
Tekstiviesti Siriuksesta
A Mace in Mace
Holmes Family
Kaipuu Ukrainaan, muistojen maahan
Black on Black
so what are you waiting for????? |
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alterus
Registered: Feb 2016
Posts: 10 |
I think this decision to ban all BASIC programs is a really bad one and will have a long term negative effect on CSDb.
This is basically a bias against one programming language over others. Sure BASIC is easier to learn and slower than Assembly, but you can still do amazing things with it when its used in an expert fashion. If a release is "scene related", what ever that means, it should be allowed in my opinion.
Are BASIC demos allowed now? Making a good one of those takes serious skill. How is it any less "scene related"?
Also, where do you draw the line? Most BBS software is compiled BASIC. Is it not worthy now either?
You absolutely shouldn't be banning entries based on the language they are programmed in. It should be based 100% on their content. Anything else is just stupid. |
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