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2014-09-08 19:34
SuperNoise
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Old BreadBox doesn't work with U1541

Hello everybody here.
I have a serious problem because my compo-machine for Riverwash 2014 (with old sid) doesn't want to collaborate with U1541.

So generaly I have U1541-II with software 2.6j and it works fine with my C64C and it works also fine with C128 (PHI time change is required but it's normal).

I have one C64 made in Germany, breadbox edition (old sid). This C64 works fine with Action Replay 7.x and standard floppy drives but it doesn't work with U1541. The problem is, when I choose a file to execute from U1451 menu, the blue screen appears, and I can see 'mounting' comunicate, but this is all, the C64 stops.

Maybe you have any idea where shall I start my investigation to run up the old C64 again on the track, please help.
 
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2014-09-09 11:44
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
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I totally agree that orgs should have always real drive as a lifesaver, but U1541 is imho the best primary option these days :)
2014-09-09 11:47
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11440
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remember two years ago how the chameleon change disk with coma light 13 didn't work and peiseluli was short before going bananas? :)

they used 1541U at X :) however that wasnt the problem... someone inserted the wrong disk into the real drive and it crashed (of course) =)
2014-09-09 12:00
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1081
I ran the Datastorm compo on my 1541U2, but used two C64s - one dedicated to selecting disks, and the IEC cable connected to the other C64 which ran the actual demo. Worked splendidly, and you need two machines for the music compo anyway.
2014-09-09 12:49
algorithm

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 707
Hopefully after the next beta of the chameleon update, chameleon can be used instead of 1541u in compos :-) No need to freeze, flip disks via button
2014-09-09 14:23
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1081
Or Kisiel's UK1541 which uses buttons and an external display.
2014-09-09 14:29
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
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Yeah, his piece of hardware might turn out a bestseller, especially that it's supposed to be really affordable.
2014-09-09 15:01
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
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time for more emufuxoring =) so far no floppy emulation exists that can pass all the testprograms i knocked up so far (and i didnt even start with the fancy stuff yet)
2014-09-09 16:29
algorithm

Registered: May 2002
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@groepaz. Just remember to implement these into the chameleon core to get more of a headstart :-)
2014-09-09 16:42
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11440
oh, 9b will be the leader regarding those tests :) (although still not able to pass all of them, VIAs are doing weird stuff in some corner cases)
2014-09-09 17:14
SuperNoise
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Well, how far was your thinking here, guys :).
I didn't say I'm going to run demos from U1541 during compo :D.

Anyway, the U1541 is required because most of stuff I get from people is on USB stick and it's much easier/faster to manage VFAT filesystem than copy disk files on real C64. Belive me, during party such thinks take a lot of time if managed with real C64 stuff.

If you have all prods in order, when you can decide what goes on real 1541 and what may be run from U1541 durring compo.
But even when (as you said before) you alway have a backup copy on U1541 and in case disk is broken (what happens with 20 years old disks) so you can run production from backup without hastle.

I don't see any problem to run productions (even music, gfx) from real C64 and real floppy. I'm prepared with old C64, C64C, C128, 2-sid C64G, all sort of original Commodore floppys (1541,1541-II, 1571, 1581 if required) but the true is - never, NO ONE, ask me 'hey just run my prod with floppy xxxx' - for five last years NO ONE.

So, may we come back to the root problem now?
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