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2005-11-11 08:55
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
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Cooperations

I was going to submit some cracks from Ikari+Talent when I noticed to my surprise that there's no entry for this coop yet.
What's the though about this? Should I add I+T as a new group or should I credit all I+T cracks to both groups?
I'd say a new group is needed to make it easier to find the releases from the coop more easily.
There's already a couple of other coops added, such as Success + The Ruling Company, <group id=843>, WOW+ROLE.
 
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2005-11-11 15:10
Zyron

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Quote: isnt there a big difference in co-ops like TRSI, SCS+TRC and I+T in the meaning that they ended up as one group. Comparing shorter co-ops, whereas the lifespan was just as long as one of the groups continued to supply games or whatever the deal was.

Altough, Talent did return some years after....

What I try to say with this is that maybe not every co-op should be added as a new group?


I totally agree.
2005-11-11 15:24
H.O
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Registered: Oct 2002
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IMO, a group is a group and coop is a coop. Productions should be credited to groups, and not to coops, but released by coops.

For example, if Doc of Ikari cracked something while they were in coop with Talent, the crack should be labelled both under Ikari and Talent, but the cracking credit should be "Doc of Ikari"

It's a cooperation between two groups, not a new group.
2005-11-11 15:55
Earthshaker

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 118
Quote: IMO, a group is a group and coop is a coop. Productions should be credited to groups, and not to coops, but released by coops.

For example, if Doc of Ikari cracked something while they were in coop with Talent, the crack should be labelled both under Ikari and Talent, but the cracking credit should be "Doc of Ikari"

It's a cooperation between two groups, not a new group.


I agree with HO. Maybe some new option should be made to link 2 groups together in the period that they had the coop.
2005-11-11 16:03
Scout

Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570
Quote: I agree with HO. Maybe some new option should be made to link 2 groups together in the period that they had the coop.

"We planned that for version 2.0"

Hehehe :)

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2005-11-11 16:56
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
What Earthshaker suggests is a good idea. However, since we don't have such a feature right now I think that long living coops deserve an own entry since that makes it easier to separate the coop releases from the individual group releases. Just adding two groups as authors of an entry doesn't necesarily make it a coop, one example is imported releases.
2005-11-11 18:08
Tch
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I have added some Brutal+Dunex cracks myself.
Credited both groups for the release.
It was stricktly a cracking-coop, so I don´t think it deserves a new entry.
Maniac had quit the scene and R.C.S. got a lot of originals,so he basically gave them to Spikes to crack them.

Hmm,Ikari+Talent..
I´d say, no new entry.
Credit the cracker and maybe add a Trivia to both groups when they went into coop.
Should make things easy enough to search the database.
2005-11-11 18:13
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
Well, in a way I agree...but that should mean that NO coops were alloved an own entry. So we'll need to split coops like Tristar & Red Sector Inc., Success + The Ruling Company, <group id=843>, WOW+ROLE, Pioneers+The Guardian Angels, The Ruling Company+The Blasters Incorporated.
2005-11-11 19:01
Dishy

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 241
Well, seems it´s actually not that easy..

Also X-Ray was in co-op with Success in 1990, but also The Arrogance didn´t add that as a group in here, when he cleared up the whole history of Success.

Later X-Ray was also in cooperation with Transcom in about 1990/1991.

Crazy was in co-op with Lotus in 89/90 and later with G*P. Also G*P was in cooperation with Fire Eagle for about a month.






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2005-11-11 19:13
Dishy

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 241
Hmm, actually I think the co-op between X-Ray+Success has been created in here, as I think I remember, that Mason/Unicess was added to that memberlist, but then The Arrogance corrected that, and put Mason on the X-Ray list instead of the co-op memberlist.. Seems that someone has deleted that co-op in here again.. Probably The Arrogance.


Actually also Vision and Sire was in co-op in about 1989/90. If you have some of their releases, I would very much like to check it out ;-)

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2005-11-11 21:41
Matt

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 598
yea sounds to me it's getting a bit confuzing all those coops.
wow+rush
wow+intruders
wow+role (eheh)
wow+shadedesigns

anyway, lots of coops out there that were brought alive that only last 1 release. thats not really a coop coop if u know what I mean. the wow+shadedesigns is only 1 simple example. and there's heaps more
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