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2006-03-11 16:32
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
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How low one can get #2

Making money by stepping on the ppls back that made demos for free, for the scene ?

http://home.ngi.de/digitalmemories/buy.html

if you charge no more than DVD and postal costs I take my words back. Otherwise.....
 
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2006-03-12 10:25
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
Quote: I see it like this... someone spends time creating a collection of carefully selected demos asking authors for permissions to publish the demos on a DVD which will be sold for "estimated cost". Then spends some time DVD doing some work around interface and stuff and finally after years starts to sell it. That would be quite right IMO. Question is if authors of the demos were contacted etc.. if not, then something is wrong there. Anyway gotta put that collection to "related" it's not a C64 release anyway.

P.S.: Special message for people who "know" c64.sk rules better than me. (the news will be put to related because I didn't receive those 100 eurobucks + 5 copies of DVD ;-)))))



creamd, half of any of the demos on the DVD was more work than the dvd itself.

if all the demo authors gave permission then its okay. But in this case I think most demo creators shares murdock opinion.
2006-03-12 10:27
Slartibartfast
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Registered: Jul 2002
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All of the creative work of any scener is automatically copyrighted material when released unless specified otherwise.

That's all I have to say about that.
2006-03-12 10:45
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3053
Quote: All of the creative work of any scener is automatically copyrighted material when released unless specified otherwise.

That's all I have to say about that.


Exactly! That's how the law works.
2006-03-12 10:49
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3053
Quote: creamd, half of any of the demos on the DVD was more work than the dvd itself.

if all the demo authors gave permission then its okay. But in this case I think most demo creators shares murdock opinion.


DVD easier to do than demos. Maybe. Depends on how much work one gives to deail and interface while producing it. I would apprecaite work of someone who would create a decent collection of e.g. the best amiga demos on DVD as I don't have Amiga.

Authors giving or not giving permission, that depends on them, important is to ALWAYS ASK for that PERMISSION. I think some demo-creators wouldn't mind if they were asked nicely. Murdock is known for extreme stands ;-)
2006-03-12 11:02
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Quote: All of the creative work of any scener is automatically copyrighted material when released unless specified otherwise.

That's all I have to say about that.


So copying an effect - lets say, a DYCP or a 4x4 - is actually a copyright infringementation unless the creator of the original effect specifies otherwise?

2006-03-12 11:19
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11361
@jailbird: actually, its not :) ripping the actual code, now that would be another thing.
2006-03-12 11:26
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Quote: @jailbird: actually, its not :) ripping the actual code, now that would be another thing.

But in a similar situation, as an example, when a china guy copies a similar look of a certain sneaker and names it "Nukee" or "Reebak", it's against the law, right?

Gosh, I don't get this at all.
2006-03-12 11:28
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
However, DYCP and "Chunky Effects" are not trademarks... Anyone thought about registering these things?
2006-03-12 11:31
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 946
Quote: However, DYCP and "Chunky Effects" are not trademarks... Anyone thought about registering these things?


Hurry!!!!
2006-03-12 11:33
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
creamd, the dvd in question havent asked for permission in atleast one case, according to hein.

anyway, being part of a society, and then making money out of the free stuff thats done for all members of the society for free... errhm..... khmm...

its not even according to groepaz kinda illegal, its sucking blood of the scene.
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