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2007-05-15 18:41
BAR.
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The Centauri Logoeditor

It was one of the best fakes in the 90's in my eyes as Henry was very high in the charts as coder.

The truth was he used the scene maker from the Gamemaker
which was done by Activision (4/86).
 
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2007-05-15 20:21
BAR.
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Quote: I think it also was Henry that added the bit-shining and char/font conversion functionality.. On the other hand, it could easily have been TSH/ Ventura as he produced several (mostly unreleased) gfx tools throughout the years..

@Barracuda: Although I joined Centauri when the Arnhem members already left the scene, Henry has never claimed to have written the editor (neither did TSH/ Ventura) as far as I know. Then again, it is not very hard to develop such an editor, so what the heck are we talking about.. ;)


I never said that he claimed to having written the editor.
I add this only as info and want to know more about..
In my eyes a lot of the sceners don't know that it was
the Activision Tool and thought it was Henrys work.
Taking a closer look at the credits i ask the question if the credits coding can be given to him or only credits for improving.

That's all..
2007-05-15 20:28
TDJ

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In that case you can change a lot of credits for tools, like crunchers, notewriters, even music editors.

Like Ben stated, Henry actually added stuff, the conversion functionality was all that I ever used of that tool myself. So his credits for 'code' are right in my eyes.
2007-05-15 20:35
BAR.
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Quote: There are many releases that were hacked up commercial programs.
Most of them are listed with only the coder/coders listed in the actual release.

Putting a Comment about where the original code comes from like you did should be enough.


ok tdj, benn, tlr - i agree.
Could be hard to make differences then as i thought deeper..
Add link to the original as comment.
2007-05-15 22:27
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@Barracuda: I responded to your first post; I miss the grounds for labeling this release as a 'fake'.. I mean, there is no need to blame it on Henry.. On the other hand, I agree that a link to the original is nice even if it just for the records.. ;)
Case closed? ;)
2007-05-16 02:32
BAR.
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Quote: @Barracuda: I responded to your first post; I miss the grounds for labeling this release as a 'fake'.. I mean, there is no need to blame it on Henry.. On the other hand, I agree that a link to the original is nice even if it just for the records.. ;)
Case closed? ;)


@Benn - I call it a fake because of some german diskmags
which report over "his" new editor, as there were fakemags
around or other reasons and as the editor from Henry was so late.. ACTIVISION 1985.. :)

Case closed..
Baracuda
2007-05-16 15:00
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>In my eyes a lot of the sceners don't know that it was
>the Activision Tool and thought it was Henrys work.

I think it's mostly newer guys in the scene who wouldn't realize where it came from, as they might not have ever seen the original. Us dinosaurs probably all tried our hand at making some game with Gamemaker when it was new ;)

It's a handy editor for 3-color stuff, btw. I did all my logos with it until I started using Project One. It does lack a few features, though. (Color arranging, for example)

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2007-05-16 15:59
BAR.
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it was 4-colour stuff from 16 possible colours. :-)
You need only the keyboard to save a file otherwise you
work with your joystick. There was a trick to write texts
in your picture.. It was the "Scenemaker".
2007-05-17 11:55
Conrad

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What the hell?!?
So all this means that Henry didn't code it in the first place? He hacked it instead? I never knew about this before until now!
2007-05-17 14:24
BAR.
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Quote: What the hell?!?
So all this means that Henry didn't code it in the first place? He hacked it instead? I never knew about this before until now!


mostly programs under copyrights were hacked and then
improved a little bit and sold as Public Domain program or
spread around as you could read here in this thread.

Worked well and was fun. The cops were blind and not able to say something about.. Take a look in old computermagazines
and you found the originals, if you don't know them..

:-)

A good example was Disk Devil a wellknown Toolcollection..
Would be fun to write here in CSDB as a comment
what's the original, who did that and when..


2007-05-17 14:26
TDJ

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Quote: What the hell?!?
So all this means that Henry didn't code it in the first place? He hacked it instead? I never knew about this before until now!


It's an outrage!!!
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