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grennouille
Registered: Jul 2008
Posts: 222 |
Just for curiosity
I wonder ... How do your families/friends consider your c64 love?
Personnaly I have 3 children and a girlfriend who see me like I'm an E.T. sometimes... My youngest son who is 5 years old sometime enjoys playing some of the 64 games but it don't take very long before he goes back to is Nintendo DS...
Sometimes, when a new flashy demo comes out here, I play it in Vice Full screen with speakers up and ask my girlfriend "Look ! Look ! Awesome what a 1mhz 64k computer can do! These coders are awesome! Don't you think? She replies : Of course.. Of course...
Do the people you love see you like an E.T. sometimes too?
Just curious and jobs boring so... |
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NecroPolo
Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231 |
Funny thread :)
With relatives I don't have any problems with that, I'm lucky. Some good old friends still have their C64 too, and they seem to appreciate that I restarted my SID engines after a long pause.
My family and my lady... They have been picturing me like that, from the start: sitting before a computer and making something loud and heavy :) Besides, I pay much attention on disturbing others as little as possible. Back in the time before I started the studio I even mixed demos during the night at home, with family sleeping and no one had any problems with that.
The guys who think I totally lost my mind are some of the members of the young bands I work with (minus one decade) :) Some of them are fans of what I did in the last decade in the metal scene, or respect of what I did. It is hilarious to see the reactions of them sometimes, like that:
"hey Mikk what is that icon down there?"
"C64 emulator, that is."
"...whaaa...?"
"I started composing music with that 20 years ago."
"Fuck haha... Er... You REALLY must be kidding. You're a guitarist"
"Before that."
"Fuck no haha. C'mon show me somethnig, man!"
(load GMC, load tune, hit f1)
"...AHAahahahahaHAHAHAHAHHA you really musit be kidding ahahahah what a cling-kong phone tune ahahahaha... aha..., ha...! A...?!? Fuck wait!!!! Isn't that the song from...?"
"Yes it is."
"FUCK I was grown up on that shit in the '90s! But wasn't that a metal song of you...?"
"Years later it became that. This is the original form, from 1992. Everything started there."
"WOW... Fuuuuuuuuuuuu... Is that really made of all numbers and stuff? Woooo..."
I've always had an underground attitude so when even an underground metalhead considers my stuff to be underground that makes me happy :) |
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Hate Bush
Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 460 |
none of my close friends are/were c64 owners. i don't have a problem explaining the c64 scene activity to them, though. perhaps that's because they're all involved in sorts of nonprofit and absurd creativity. |
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hevosenliha
Registered: Sep 2008
Posts: 48 |
I think this is very comparable to (for just an example) black/white photos...
"You know, color photos has been around for ages"
Still there are people who like black/white better for one or another reason.
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SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
What is 'absurd creativity' ? |
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Death Merchant
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Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 13 |
Even though all my friends are artists and musicians, none of them seem to understand demos. The most hilarious response was, "What's the point?" Even though my girlfriend went to school for video and appreciates experimental and abstract video work, she just rolls her eyes when I show her something. The only people who show much interest are various musicians who see the SID chip as something to be exploited...which is great...but they too don't see "the point" of demos. |
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MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1065 |
Well the artistic value of a lot of demos is near zero. The demo scene really has its own values, and they don't mean a lot to outsiders. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11296 |
s/alot/most/ :)
and who cares wether they see the point. i dont see the point in running after and kicking a ball either :o) |
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FATFrost
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Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 211 |
i don't think the artistic value is zero, how can you say that!? some of the artwork within the c64 scene is on a par with anything else painted on a canvas, it take just as much work to produce pixel art as traditional works.
but the main point i want to make is that c64 demo's will always be amazing, to the person who is interested in them, you cannot force a person to like something such as a demo, the person has to become interested in their own way and that is why we all like them and people outside think we're strange for watching them, the same reason why we think they're strange for spending 4-6 hours of trashy soap operas every night without fail and when questioned about it will defend it to the grave! lol....
each to their own i suppose.
lollypops all round!!!!
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Hate Bush
Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 460 |
@Jan: by 'absurd creativity' I mean creating something solely for the sake of the creator's pleasure. (and keep in mind that the subject "artist -> artist = good, artist -> audience = bad" has been discussed before, so please don't bother.) |
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Death Merchant
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Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 13 |
"Well the artistic value of a lot of demos is near zero. The demo scene really has its own values, and they don't mean a lot to outsiders."
One of the main reasons why I like demos is seeing how far people can push the machine with its extreme limitations. That is an artform. I would think alot of my artist/musician friends would see that aspect of it as they too are always working under severe limitations of either resources or ability. What I think turns most of them off is the sort of "raver/visual candy wallpaper" aspect of many productions. But yea- I don't think they realize that everything is done in code and not some after-effects like application.
Even though my stint in the scene was short lived and, to be honest, not of top quality, it taught me alot about art even though my current art is far removed from demos and 8-bit culture. In the era I was active, 88-91, demos were primitive compared to today's productions but it taught me how something can be very iconic. I viewed the classic Fairlight intro as if it was a Virgin Mary icon...it was that powerful in my thirteen year old mind. |
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