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Didi
Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 486 |
What is a "crack"?
In the release On the Farm III +8FD there started a discussion about what is a "crack". In CSDb rules a crack is defined as an unauthorized modification. In other scenes this would be called a "hack" or a "mod".
I hardly remember any games since 1994 which really needed to remove a protection, so most "crackers" started to use different clauses to declare their work, e.g. "raped" or something like this. But there also should be made a difference between linking an intro or training a game and other improvements like highscore-savers, bugfixes, improved packing and loading routines, etc. Crack might not be the correct name for it but what else to call it?
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Adam
Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 323 |
this topic is as old as time, well.. maybe not 'as old' but you get the picture. ;))
didi: Release standards for cracks in CSDb
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Celtic
Administrator
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 807 |
Look, the rules have been established, and we dont want to change it, because it would also change every crack in this database. At a certain point you gotta settle on what you agree with, and i think everyone can agree that the c64 has seens things like intro-linking, fixing, or whatever as cracks.
For me this discussion stems mainly from the fact you crack mostly recently released PD games. And some sceners dont really like that or something. Personally i dont care, but i can understand people feeling it is futile.
In the end we are all hobbyist reliving the fun we had in our teens:). And mainly i am glad you and Laxity are back into effect. Go activity!
That said: you guys have the skill to focus more on jewel cracks. I would personally prefer to see one amazingly cracked old game, or a new intro coded by you (coz laxity intro were always fun!) then a release like On The Farm.
My challenge: no one has ever been able to one-side, properly crack Pirates!, many say it cannot be done.
Why not spend some time on that :)
Either way, there wont be any additions to crack catergories.
Have fun!
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Achim
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2010
Posts: 28 |
I just read the old posts and pissed myself laughing. Fair enough. I can understand why the csdb staff can't hear it anymore.
Here are two more suggestions, just to annoy you (hehe):
1) "32k game", found 12 entries. why not delete that category? Makes it easier for all of us.
2) There're credits for almost anything one can think of. But where is "sound effects"? (well, this is a serious suggestion)
But who am I? I'm a non-wares scener and a newbie. So I better keep my mouth shut. I'm a good boy. I always do what I'm told.
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Rough
Account closed
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1829 |
Achim, you forgot to demand credits subject 'Rasters'.
Seriously... what Celtic said. |
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TheRyk
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2219 |
I'm still dreaming of a single-sided fastloaded Skate or Die which not freezes in multiplayer mode.
BTT: Back to work, coders, crackers, gfxians, musicians and whatsoever, more releases, less inch pinching ;) |
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Conrad
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 847 |
Look, just rant about your problems on the definition of "crack" in the next scrolltext you write in your intro. These days I just seem to be reading lame poetry! ;) ;) |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
And while we're at stupid labels, someone please explain to me what the friggin holy shit is a "fullscreen graphician"?!? I keep asking this question literally for years here, and none of the admins care to respond or do a flying fuck about it. *sigh* |
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enthusi
Registered: May 2004
Posts: 677 |
People not just doing charsets/logos. |
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Skate
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 494 |
Since I'm not a cracker and i don't know much about cracking, i have a serious question on this subject.
How many commercial games back in the days had a real protection (in percantage)? It includes copy protection, trainer protection, hidden "is original?" checks, timers etc. etc. Of course i'm not asking for an accurate answer, just an average percentage.
I know there were some companies like Ocean who made crackers' life really harder but i'm not sure if all Ocean and other big brand company games had those protections. And what about the rest of the games released by smaller companies or people? |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Quote: People not just doing charsets/logos.
Yep, that would be fine with me if we'd also have a "charset/logo graphician" category. And who are those graphicians who are doing just charsets/logos anyway?
Edit: by the same logic, why aren't coders separated into vector coders, plasma coders, scroll coders, etc? |
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