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2013-05-21 22:12

Magnar

Registered: Aug 2009
Posts: 60

Votes for Inspiration

Well, where do I go to find inspiration?

The answer is mostly to CSDB (or Youtube).

So, lets see... Magnar Harestad

To be honest, how should I get inspired by only 15 people voted on my music skills? I mean, does not any else care about my music released in demos as Wonderland XI, We Are New, Lash, Sidelined etc?

If only 15 people has taken the time to vote, then why should I put efforts in composing new sid tracks for new demos? Is it really worth it?

I would rather have a 1000's giving me a score of 1, than 15x give me a average score of around 8. At least in the first example, I would know I sucked at composing. :)

Cheers

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2013-05-23 16:29

SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238

MAgnar, you are doing the same mistake that i was doing for many years.

brought up, self taught on c64, making music, to believe its to be the best composer, become rob hubbard, then become galway, then becoem jeroen tel, to get same level of fame and recognition as masters of the sid.

Magnar, its a mistake.

Every single sid you have created is a masterpiece Magnar!
Every single sid i have created is a Masterpiece Magnar!

I do music to do my best and try new things.

Youre on the wrong way magnar, just do your best, do your dreams.

forget the votes.
forget to become someone, you can only become yourself.

did you know i am voted #4 of all ?
who know in what mag and when this happened ?

my votes certainly doint show this Magnar.

music is personaly taste Magnar, it dont matter you make a mozart perfec tune, people who dont like mozart, wont like your music!

Just make inner dreams true, votes are useless because of too less of them.

if votes shall ever work, all members of csdb shall be forced 2 times pr year to cast votes on everything, and if they dont, they get inactive account and cannot longin.

its the only way that things get "graded".

and i belive its a good idea.
Groepaz - ? it is a good idea. do that, then we get people to vote.

Magnar, yo umade shitty tunes like shit, and you made very good, and also masterpieces, what i hear from you, is that you are not centered and dont have develped a personaly style to the point where you just shine like your inner self.

you cannot do this, as long you hunt fame, and to "make something like jeroen tel".

Magnar..

You can never become Jeroen Tel!
you Can only become yourself.

and if copy Jeroen Tel, then what are you ?

Wake up Magnar, you have the talent.
just be yourself.

2013-05-23 16:34

SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238

and MAgnar, Jeroen Tel is very math, and not to downgrade JT in any way, but basicly what jeroen does him to be jeroen, is he is master of shifting scales all the time.

JT play a scale, shift to another, back and forth, around in 3-5 scales. and he is master at this since he did it always.

this is his trademark.

find your own trademark Magnar.
learning scales, and train to swith them... then its one step closer to be JT..

Just follo winner dreams of self realization.

brilliant demos are here on csdb that are fvery simple programmed, but are pure genious demos anyway.

2013-05-23 16:36

SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238

if you want to be really many levels better than you think you are, then take real music lessons, learn to play a real piano.

then it all becomes easy.

"selftaught, i wil master the c64, never take lessons, i am selftaught and therefore the best!"

an illusion...

there is always a master, to learn from.
find him.

and be sure to know, just as might have occurred in your educations whatever they are: at some point, the apprentice can beat his master.

but its not about beating people...
that the mistake all we 15 year old selftaught guys did.

we think we could become gods.

its time to grow up and jump to level 2 magnar. :)
its all inside you, just open up to let it come out!

2013-05-23 18:22

celticdesign

Registered: Oct 2005
Posts: 149

well, there are plenty of marvelous tracks with far to less votes and lack of comments. recently i get my inspiration exactly out of this. i try to become better for more attention ;-)... oh and i regret that i stopped my music activities for that long period (around FOCKING 20 YEARS!). i hope i don't fall asleep again. at least do it for fun and your own. i am looking forward to listen to your new sids and keep on the good work!

2013-05-23 18:26

DRAX

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 225

I follow you in a way, Magnar. I myself have always wondered why I am the musician that have gotten the most number of votes... What does that mean??? But what I extract from your comment is that people should be more active in having an opinion and that you care about feedback - just as I do...

2013-05-23 18:44

Bitbreaker

Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 501

Well, it is the usual phenomenon. Some people are hyped and others that might even be way better but less wellknown get lost in the big mass of productions. It is like with modern music, there's the hitlists with the stuff to please the masses and there's fecking cool shit from pretty unknown people hidden under that pile of that you only notice when you dig after it. As the ration of dumb:intelligent is around 99:1 it is obvious that the genius stuff gets way less attention :-)

2013-05-23 18:44

Stone

Registered: Oct 2006
Posts: 170

@Magnar: After we released Another Beginning which had a lot of new Prosonix tunes in it, Ole wanted feedback on his tunes, so we released both his and mine as standalone music demos and got a lot of feedback that way. A lot more constructive and motivational than some arbitrary number from anonymous voters, I think.

2013-05-23 19:48

chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11293

Quote:

Some people are hyped and others that might even be way better but less wellknown get lost in the big mass of productions.

at this point everyone must vote for mr. Kjell Nordbo (RIP)

2013-05-23 20:58

DRAX

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 225

Stein: yeah, it's a good idea to release the tunes separately... The number of votes, and how good the composer is has nothing to do with each other and besides that I don't think it has to do with being hyped only... I still think people should care more about giving feedback, so I will start by trying to better at it myself... and not just being a lazy fuck ;)

2013-05-24 00:45

NecroPolo

Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231

Quote: Quote:
Some people are hyped and others that might even be way better but less wellknown get lost in the big mass of productions.

at this point everyone must vote for mr. Kjell Nordbo (RIP)

Well said, man. What Kjell created is unmatched and is something that no one else will be able to re-create.

on-topic:

My full respect flies to everyone, hyped or not so much hyped. I can hear much value and great attitude in all of your SIDs even if most of them are not really my style. But whatever competent you are you can't tell peope what to prefer and what not and that's allright. That's life. As long as you have joy in creation, why the heck do you care about vote and rating hubble bubble? It's SID, one of the few little spots of the world that is not f'd up, where you are free and don't have to please anyone just do stuff as your instinct tells. Sure there will be negative ears as well, so what? It is not F'n pussy porn pop music but under-underground stuff. Fine stuff of that.

On my part I've been doing my own things in the much more hostile underground metal scene (with comments like, 'you fuckin must be executed for that' and so on - pathetic...) for over two decades and never listened to any critics. That's why I'm still doing it happily I guess while most of the critics live full of conformity and left music scene ages ago. So whenever I hear anything like 'you should do this or that' or 'you should improve and change this or that' I say thanks for the feedback, otherwise you must be f'n kidding man. Listening to moaners is dangerous as they make you compromise and your music will be f'd up. Some tell truth and give super valuable info but you must be confident in your style and know yourself well to handle this well.

The much more dangerous thing is to take diehard fans seriously. It makes you overconfident and overfed, you lose your own control over your own quality standards, lose direction, burn out and start to produce crap. So, 1 constructive negative comment for 1000 likes, man! Or 1000 negatives for 1000 positives any time as at least they keep you angry and hungry for creation.

If people are moaning too much about someting that you like during creation, next time try to overdo it 50 times more to push down in the throats then watch the effect. Most will like it more. Anyway, it is much more fun to see pro and con people fighting over your stuff than reading opppa-suppa-duppa comments all the time.

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