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Marq
Registered: Sep 2011
Posts: 50 |
Help needed for a scene-related article - looking for oldtimers!
Hi,
I'm writing an article about the origins of the demo/pirate/cracking scene for a WiderScreen thematic issue (http://widerscreen.fi/call-for-papers/) and would like to hear some first-hand accounts as to how things were back in the day. I have Finland pretty well covered already, but other countries not, so if you were active already in the 1980s and could spare some minutes for answering a few questions, I'd love to hear from you. And as usual, I'm in a big hurry with this :) |
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Marq
Registered: Sep 2011
Posts: 50 |
Oh, I forgot "Commodork" by Rob O'Hara, even though that's much less about demos. |
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titan_ae
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Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 46 |
Commodork online :
http://tinyurl.com/opu4zsj
seems to be interesting. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
just avoid anything this guy wrote /o\ |
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Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1829 |
And yes, I agree with Jon. There are no secrets about any 80s "underground scene". It's just some jerks trying to pretend to themselves that their mainstream hobby is something special/underground/outstandingly cool while it is not. Everybody who's trying to make a big story of it, is still stuck in his adolescence which is a common problem with people who are capable of coding on a computer but have no clue of the slightest bit of anything else. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
being stuck in his adolescence is a common problem with pretty much everyone still using a c64 in 2013 =)
and seriously, that computer stuff wasnt mainstream in the 80s by far. quite the contrary actually, normal ppl were skateboarding and riding their BMX bike instead =P |
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Jon
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Registered: Apr 2005
Posts: 247 |
I just finished reading Commodork. If you're interested in anything NTSC scene related, skip it. From what I read, he had little to no exposure to the scene outside of Oklahoma and a majority of it isn't about the Commodore 64 at all (he spends a ton of time discussing his Apple II and PC activities, probably moreso than his C64 activities). He might be worth an interview, though.
And yeah, I think my adolescence holds me here, too.
Jon |
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Bitbreaker
Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 508 |
I guess the only two things that makes all those scenes a bit of undergrounnd is, that as for the illegal times noone wanted to get busted due to silly mistakes of some morons. In the nowadays demoscene noone wants to be confronted with clueless people as it is mostly impossible to explain them your fascination. So the underground is not any shelter but occurs due to the huge distance to the things that happen in normal lifes.
Also, usually people want to play without being disturbed by noobs, no matter in what scene you play. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3057 |
Scene is maybe not so interesting as skateboarding, but after 10-20 years and some scandals, etc. maybe someone will look at it from the right hollywood angle and make a totally innacuarate but entertaining and emotional story of it. ;-) |
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Marq
Registered: Sep 2011
Posts: 50 |
After a heavy crunch the thematic scene issue is finally out:
http://www.widerscreen.fi/
My article on the roots of the (demo)scene directly here:
http://widerscreen.fi/numerot/2014-1-2/crackers-became-us-demos..
Thanks once more to everyone who helped! |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094 |
the demo visualizations including time dimension are impressive. |
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