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Martin Piper
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 722 |
Proposed rule change
I would like to propose a rule change. If an admin is involved in posting in a thread they are not allowed to use their admin powers to delete posts, issue warnings or lock threads. This would help stop the situations where an admin who loses an argument can abuse their powers to remove the posts they personally disagree with.
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
Quote:You're not talking about the same thing so the comparison is invalid. The point is your action was rash because you acted too quickly. The point being to stop that in the future. Which is why the other sites implement something similar.
i was talking about a very similar thing. and preventing to act quickly in the future is exactly what will cause other problems. |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
First of all, thanks to Groepaz for at least trying to put his personal issues aside
and come forward with some reasonable arguments instead of resorting to sarcasm and elitism :-D
While i understand the need to "act quickly" when circumstances require it,
i still think martin has a point. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
yes he has a point, like i said. solves some problems, creates some new. and those who run the site decide what they prefer. and, again, this particular problem is largely blown out of proportions. i'd totally support the idea if we had an actual problem of moderators closing threads and deleting posts all the time. i'd also like to point martin to post number #51 again - what about if users can not complain if they are involved either? or atleast, they cant do it anywhere else but in the originating thread (and not open whining threads like this one, which as mason mentioned piss off a good number of people aswell)? |
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Martin Piper
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 722 |
Groepaz, this was not started as a whine thread. It is constructive criticism.
The example you gave is not a good example because it incorrectly conflates banning a user with actively posting rubbish in a thread and then wanting to abuse mod tools to hide that mistake.
In the case of your mistake being able to act quickly as a mod makes the mistake worse not better.
To have good moderation someone else needs to act quickly, not you.
That is the whole point. |
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Martin Piper
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 722 |
As for the off topic point in post 51 you mention.
The fact that one side, the mods, have a private forum and tools unfairly stacks against the users. It is therefore healthy to users to complain.
If the users were able to vote for the mods at regular intervals you might have a point though. |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
Quoting Groepaz i'd totally support the idea if we had an actual problem of moderators closing threads and deleting posts all the time. Well, one could argue that the two recently closed threads were enough to start the fire. |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
Quoting The Communistand "we give a fuck" means "we care about" ? Actually, thats exactly what it means.
If you give a fuck, you care. If you don't give a fuck, you don't.
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JCB
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 241 |
Quote: Quoting The Communistand "we give a fuck" means "we care about" ? Actually, thats exactly what it means.
If you give a fuck, you care. If you don't give a fuck, you don't.
I've seen that one cause confusion before. It's just not used in England, and it seems some other countries ;) It's like the (I believe) American one, I "could" give a fuck about which is the same as I "don't"..
Now the lot of you, care off!! :P
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Martin Piper
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 722 |
Earlier on in the thread I detailed a technical way in which this can be implemented. If the board coder(s) are too busy just send me the source code and I can do the job in less than a day. It is very trivial to implement. |
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