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Bitbreaker
Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 504 |
boobsploitation
So i never understood the fuzz about choosing boobs as a motif. Nude bodies have always been part of art. Also boobs are a thankful motif, as they keep one motivated to continue and finish a picture. Actually i adore and worship the female body. For me, nothing does feel wrong about that. But i somehow feel like there's a lot of mental masturbation going on. So feel free to bring your arguments against boobs forward. Maybe some nice drama will develop from that!
And yes, of course i'll continue drawing boobs, don't bother :-) |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2968 |
Full ack to Jailbird, couldn't have said it better.
Actually i try to live like that every day, too: keep inappropriate utterings and half-baked train-of-thought to myself, but give honest answers when asked directly.
These may come out reluctantly, with some diplomatic sugar on top or otherwise toned down, but i'm rather confident that nobody could classify them as lies. |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Quoting CreaMDI was really emabarassed when they played some fat girl/porn or what was it pics on big screen and laughed on them (point probably was that it was someone's girlfriend, dunno). Also once she visited me on Forever parties I'm co-organising, and made me a scene when I didn't want time for her.
Well, did you ask her if she would feel fine among a bunch of drunk/drugged up immature male nerds? Or, if it's cool with her that when you're very busy with organizing stuff around the place then you won't have time for her at all? Did you forced her to go to parties or she visited the places on her own will? Communication is the key :) |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2968 |
Quoting CreaMDDon't take your girlfriends and wifes to the parties, unless they are sceners like you (which means, *don't*). May i ask which demo party you attended last, and when that was? |
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Conrad
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 847 |
I was gonna keep this personal thing quiet, but I couldn't give a shit anymore...
Quote:If you want to know what keeps most of the women away from scene: They say: Keep me away from that goddamn unfucked (it is not my words, but women's words) nerds. I asked quite some ladies aboout what they think about the scene, and they all went just went "oh noes /o\"
Although she never admitted this to me, I fully believe this also caused the break-up between me and my last ex-girlfriend about 2-3 years ago. Once I told her about my interest in oldschool computers and the demoscene, that was it... never heard from her again... ignored texts and what not. Perhaps I'm just attracted to the wrong kind of women? :(
... or maybe it was because she liked KISS and I liked AC/DC better. :P |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3047 |
Quote: Quoting CreaMDDon't take your girlfriends and wifes to the parties, unless they are sceners like you (which means, *don't*). May i ask which demo party you attended last, and when that was?
Currently I only visit Forever Party which is compulsory for me, coz I to co-organize it. ( www.forever-party.net ). Currently we occupy place that is inside the hotel that has capacity for about 1/3 (1/2?) of visitors. The rest sleep on the place (actually I do too, on inflatable bed.. it's kinda in spirit of the partying, although in 38 I feel a bit old for spending 2 nights awake and sleepping for only few hours)
If you want to say that it get's better I must say that I don't believe it is. The parties are mainly happening thanx to people and their interaction, and people in the scene didn't change that much, did they? We still booze and smoke, and have uncoordinated fun. Yes, maybe you don't hav to sleep at party place anymore and have comfortable accomodation (with double bed rooms) nearby which is a part of infrastructure of the partyplace (I don't believe it's standard though ;-) And let's not forget the fact, that it's still scene culture and computer centered. I didn't see latest pics from slengpung so I don't get the general feeling of nowadays partying (never had urge to watch site with party pics from parties I didn't visit).
I remember in the begining of this century I visited a party in western civilisation, called Symposium & Mekka and I had problem to close the toilet coz the lock was broken. Dunno which C64 scener.. told me that I should close behind myself.. like if I was idiot from east-europe who don't know that you should close the toilet when you use it to prevent people to accidentally get in the occupied one. ;-))) But that's offtopic actually. |
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algorithm
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 705 |
Quoting CreaMDDunno which C64 scener.. told me that I should close behind myself.. like if I was idiot from east-europe who don't know that you should close the toilet
Classic! |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3047 |
Quote: I was gonna keep this personal thing quiet, but I couldn't give a shit anymore...
Quote:If you want to know what keeps most of the women away from scene: They say: Keep me away from that goddamn unfucked (it is not my words, but women's words) nerds. I asked quite some ladies aboout what they think about the scene, and they all went just went "oh noes /o\"
Although she never admitted this to me, I fully believe this also caused the break-up between me and my last ex-girlfriend about 2-3 years ago. Once I told her about my interest in oldschool computers and the demoscene, that was it... never heard from her again... ignored texts and what not. Perhaps I'm just attracted to the wrong kind of women? :(
... or maybe it was because she liked KISS and I liked AC/DC better. :P
It's really personal. If I can judge from all the stereotypes around. I don't think this was the only cause of her "disappearing". I think women generally like creative and confident personalities. And you are good. The problem might be in other attributes like if you had steady job, lived with your parents/or not, possible perspective for future life and kids and such things. Of course it's just a huge generalisation but from my experience I know, the most important thing to be able to survive with the opposite sex is to be perfecly reconciled with who you are and how you live your life. If you think that she might have left you because of you interest in oldschool computers, then you need to work on your self-esteem, or organize your life better so you don't have think about things like.. whether the problem is in you... yes we computer guys are shy... but in the end we aren't totally worthless and don't differ much from the ones that polish their old car(s) in their (preferably secret place) garage every second day and on whole saturdays. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3047 |
Quote: Quoting CreaMDI was really emabarassed when they played some fat girl/porn or what was it pics on big screen and laughed on them (point probably was that it was someone's girlfriend, dunno). Also once she visited me on Forever parties I'm co-organising, and made me a scene when I didn't want time for her.
Well, did you ask her if she would feel fine among a bunch of drunk/drugged up immature male nerds? Or, if it's cool with her that when you're very busy with organizing stuff around the place then you won't have time for her at all? Did you forced her to go to parties or she visited the places on her own will? Communication is the key :)
Don't remember how it was. She probably wanted to visit, but left disappointed. I didn't have time for her, coz I was selfish self-centered idiot. (and I still am) |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
I think its time for cats.
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hollowman
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474 |
Quoting Groepazthat brings us back to the question why so few men are involved into the knitting scene ... =)
In the circle of people who are into hand craft that I hang out with there are about as many men as women who are knitting.
I´ve been to other meetings for people who do knitting, crochet, embroidery etc. where the majority have been women, and I never met anyone who did pictures of male genitals or had to use motives with naked men to motivate themselves to finish their work.
But I did compensate for that myself and tried to balance the lack of objectification of men by doing this cross stitching with an image from the game Cho Aniki
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