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Fungus
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 686 |
Dear Staff
Hey, stop being nazi's hmmkay? Scene has never been censored, so don't start now. You can shove political correctness up your proverbial assholes. It does not belong and never will belong in the scene or any forum related to it. You want censorship take your asses over to LEMON.
Sincerely,
Fungus (Certified Asshole) |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3057 |
Quoting FungusThe site has literally been FLOODED with these bullshit spam releases for over a year now.
If that is so, and you care, you should discuss it with someone from staff that cares too, and sort it out.
As far as my opinion is concerned. I never understood "the code" of cracking scene, and stopped caring about that long time ago. If there is need for this database to get into more purist mode of work for cracking scene, and there are people who are able and willing to maintain that, they should cooperate. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11385 |
if you (or any other of the staff) do not care - why dont you adjust those silly rules to reflect that then? apparently you guys are not even willing and/or able to do THAT. sad really. |
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1648 |
I think the main issue here isn't what sucks and not or what standards that are followed or not followed, but the right to express different views on releases in the comment fields without getting censored. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11385 |
those are two seperate issues of course - not unrelated however =P |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3057 |
Quote: able, sure. willing? no. its one of the major reasons for why i left the staff - because they are not able and/or willing to sort it out. i tried to do that more than once, and i have given up. sorry.
Maybe the "cracking" releases should get it's own dedicated autocratic ADMIN elected by remaining members of the cracking scene who would keep the spirit of the cracking scene in this database unhurt by unworthy. What do you say? I think this is doable.
I know nothing, about cracking scene and I don't get it's attitude at all, and therefore I'm unable to feel compassion towards that. But I also think that if they want this part of database to work better for them, they need to maintain it themselves. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11385 |
no, it doesnt need all that. the _only_ thing it needs is the staff actually giving a shit about their own site rules and not violating them themselves all the time.
srsly, every time that topic comes up, the only reply is "we are not to blame". ridiculous. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3057 |
Quote: if you (or any other of the staff) do not care - why dont you adjust those silly rules to reflect that then? apparently you guys are not even willing and/or able to do THAT. sad really.
I don't care about cracking releases, but I do care about cracking scene having it's part of the scene database operating the way that is accepteable for them. They must be enforced by someone who cares, is willing to do it and has authority to represent the cracking scene. You know how it is, don't blame me. |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4731 |
If we were to judge what is lame or not with every single release, we would have a lot to do, killing tons of lame ass releases from the 80ies and 90ies - many of them from well known group's first baby steps. The rules that CSDb has now is outdated, and we are unfortunately not completely happy with the new ones - but we are working on it. What can be said is that CSDb no longer is a first release site at all, thus the rules for crack qualities and so on are not interesting. Of course we want to encourage quality, but it is actually not CSDb:s work to act as judges, denying releases that might be interesting in the future. CSDb is and should be a Database. I am aware that some people think CSDb "is the scene", but it is not supposed to be. This place is supposed to be THE C64 Scene Database, and if people release lame stuff, lame stuff will be credited to them for all eternity. Without lamers no elite, right?
If you don't like Hackersoft releases, for example, ignore them. You don't have to download and run that crap (yes, I too think the releases are ridiculous, still I add them here - Vinnie is a part of Hokuto Force etc etc) and get a brain meltdown. |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4731 |
Oh. One more thing: Originals and other non-scene elements should of course be killed at sight. Still: If originals have scener connections they can still be interesting for the database. Discussing that is something for the forums. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11385 |
Quote:The rules that CSDb has now is outdated, and we are unfortunately not completely happy with the new ones
AS IF they were "new rules".
it doesnt really matter what the rules are - as long as you respect them. if the staff doesnt respect them, why should anyone else?
and yes, i know how it works creamd. nothing ever gets done, because of talking and more talking and noone willing to stand up for anything. another reason for why i left.
(_I_ dont object hackersoft releases being here btw. i _do_ object removing comments about them though)
Quote:If originals have scener connections they can still be interesting for the database. Discussing that is something for the forums.
discussing anything related to why a specific release or scener or whatnot belongs here is certainly the most silly idea ever - unless the supposed goal is to spawn more drama and procrastinate actual decisions until forever. |
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