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2003-06-24 14:44
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
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Wiring?

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, the english I read here is a bit messy for me to understand. Do I smell someone accusing me that I wire, or the opposite?
Quote from the latest Beergarden.

"Personally I'm a beleiver that 'REAL C64' gfx artist should pixel out the whole picture that they draw. Not wire it from Amiga or PC onto C64 then touch it up in an art package and then lay claim to fame on it.To me this is MIGHTY LAME and for these of you reading who don't know what I'm getting at, then just search your spreads for some recent gfx by JAILBIRD. Study his gfx carefully, they look good don't they..? So they should as wiring doesn't require anyway near the work or effort as does pixelling every dot on the C64."

Hope I just missunderstood these lines, but anyhow, proofs about my cheating would be higly appreciated, all the more as I always (unlike other "artists") prove my C64 handpixelling by numerous work stages.
I don't get why was I picked out nevertheless, wether if the author of the article thinks I cheat or not.

Then, you spend countless hours on minor innovations in c64 pixelling, you dedicate original graphics to the audience, whilst NOt COPYing other graphics artists, you fight on every kind of forums for high class fair-play on pixelling-competitions, or for the workstage-rules, and then you get a nice slap on your face. Well thank you.

My motivation is on the floor and my sadness is really deep. :(((
 
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2003-06-25 14:02
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: Well, the last release in the CSDb he's credited for as a member of Focus is Singles Collection volume 1 and that was close to a year ago...? =-)

What? Sander has been cooperating on Singles Collection volume 1?

That's even worse!
2003-06-25 15:30
T.M.R
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Posts: 749
Pppphhhhpppptttt. =-)
2003-06-25 15:55
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Haha, LOL, TDJ :)

In a private mail to me, Stryyker told me that if an opinion of a small number would matter, many of us would stop with scening. I do not inted to stop that's for sure, but such a respected mag can spread the word to many people. Lot may be convinced, even if they're not sure.
Due to that, I opened some of my workstage-disks to wide public.
Download the disks directly from here:
http://c64.rulez.org/~jailbird/pixelrus/workstages/sadness/sadn.. (Sevenfold Obsolete Sadness - - workstage pack)
http://c64.rulez.org/~jailbird/pixelrus/workstages/jazz/jazz.zip (Jazz Recital - - wokstage pack)
Or visit my site, and follow the links for gif screenshots and brief explanations:
http://c64.rulez.org/~jailbird
2003-06-25 16:19
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Taken from Jailbird's site:

"The left girl's hand, hard stuff, I suffer a lot."

Ooooooooooookay .. :)
2003-06-25 16:56
blackdroid
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Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 84
Who is Tomz to comment on "to wire or not to wire" anyway. why would it be easier to use a mouse and lets say vodka's elitepaint vs mouse and amica paint ?
crap topic that belongs in the attic, the days of converting a copyrighted .jpg from amiga/pc to c64 are not that common, and if an artist chooses to _pixel_ on pc so be it. and for all those who now think I "wire" pics drawn on amiga/pc -> piss off.
2003-06-25 17:23
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Quote: Taken from Jailbird's site:

"The left girl's hand, hard stuff, I suffer a lot."

Ooooooooooookay .. :)


TDJ, oh you , I'll dedicate a my next pixelpoopoo with a close-up of that "hard stuff" to you. If the girl spanks it hard and long enough to repixel it to the commie.
Blackdroid: discussed to death, pixelling on PC in certain circumstances is ok imho too. I pixel some fastie pictures and logos for different productions in GFX2/PC (when I'm not at home yet have a PC nearby), but I think it's the competition where you must be fair and hand in a picture that was done on a C64, that's the point when you'll get introduced to the graphician's real skills, not the skills of a converter or the advantages that a PC gives to the pixeller.
2003-06-25 17:34
drake
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and then we come to the core of c64: it's still only 8 bit so the painter needs some skills to make his picture the best. even when it's converted from pc/amiga.
2003-06-25 17:37
blackdroid
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Well you have c64 editors on "pc" so its the same challenge.
2003-06-25 19:00
drake
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pc is a different kind of computer than commodore. when painting in ifli f.e. you will see some flickering on the screen of your c64. on pc there is no flickering.

i'm not sure if its the same challenge.
2003-06-25 19:31
blackdroid
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ok could be emulated ;) but yeah ifli would be the only mode that you really dont get a close resemblence at first glance. but ifli is lame ;)
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