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2024-09-26 14:18
Gordian

Registered: May 2022
Posts: 80
Additonal categories

Hello,

Is there any chance that in the nearest future additional categories of releases will be added?
I mean:
128b intro
512b intro
basic screen fader
maybe 64b, 32b, 16b...

Best regards
Gordian
 
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2024-09-27 11:24
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2928
CSDb needs less categories, not more
2024-09-27 12:33
4gentE

Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285
Quote:
Quote:
my ass fader

That actually calls for a compo!

Somebody please do this.
2024-09-28 04:43
ws

Registered: Apr 2012
Posts: 251
i'd prefer instead, that, for cracks it would be mandatory to add "copy protection removed:" with a drop down list of known copy protections, default: "none"
2024-09-30 01:52
Six

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 293
I second what ws just suggested.
2024-09-30 16:18
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2241
Quote: CSDb needs less categories, not more

To me, both views can make sense.

But as the new thing is author-decides-if-a-one-file-demo-is-set-Music/Graphics/Intro, anyway, I don't really see how additional categories are going to get us anywhere... reacting to that trend would rather involve possibility of setting unlimited flags/categories... But if everything is set belonging all categories, the question is, wouldn't this be against the whole concept of the term "category"?

plus what oswald sez about acadamic nature of this discussion...
2024-09-30 21:34
Didi

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 487
Quote: i'd prefer instead, that, for cracks it would be mandatory to add "copy protection removed:" with a drop down list of known copy protections, default: "none"

This would presuppose qualified categorisation of thousands of entries. Are you the volunteer to walk through all crack entries and qualify them by the copy protections and if it was really cracked or just worked around. I'd call you Sysiphus if you want to do that.
2024-09-30 21:46
Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 686
I will, there's plenty of my own releases that don't deserve the "crack" moniker, but I don't have any choice what to call them.

Most of these arguments come from people who don't want to put the effort forth to have a proper db. It's a big job and people are supposed to help with it from the community. But then you get all these people who either just want a data dump for whatever, or people who have strange ideas, or others who get their jimmies in a tussle if you dare to change something on one of their releases because ego over accuracy. Or tradition over logic.

It's the same argument about what is scene, or what is a demo, or what is a crack. To me it's all or nothing, because you can't categorize everything. There's also the exclusionary snobbery that has always been in the scene, be it crackers being snobs about what is best practices and who is lame or elite, or demo sceners being snobs about how they are so much better than cracking scene, or phreakers and swappers being snobs about how important they are to the scene.

Does it matter? Is it a db or a place to show off? Sometimes I wonder what the point is when talking to staff about it, they seem at odds too about everything. Especially when the rules are the rules, except when they aren't.
2024-09-30 23:33
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2928
For many years now its been a "team" of maybe ten or fifteen people making any real effort here. Plenty of people come and go promising they'll do this or that and in the end nothing comes of it.

Less categories, not more
2024-10-04 02:53
ws

Registered: Apr 2012
Posts: 251
Additional -- HEAR ME OUT -- features request...

If you list a group, you can sort the list by "number of downloads", "csdb rating", "release date", "date added" and also "release type", release date being default.

That would be extremely helpful.

Thanks for reading.

Now: FIGHT.
2024-10-04 10:46
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 513
Yes, we need more details and tags on cracks, and definitely less categories for demoscene releases.
I mean, talking about the current state of crackscene and demoscene, the output and activity on both, that is definitely an answer to a burning need from the community.
Are you guys fucking serious?

By the way, I would gladly exchange all that for tags/option for tools, because if we want more releases and activity, the search for tools is fucking colonoscopy without anesthesia. I asked for it years ago, was informed this is "not feasible", then saw constant improvements on options for cracks. Well, I guess again depends who's asking for what. For some important people on CSDb demoscene will apparently always be a poor, retarded cousin of the mighty crackscene. Because it is fucking crucial to have "preview" or "onefiled" (!) tags on cracks, not something that distinguishes packers from gfx editors when you are looking for one.

https://csdb.dk/forums/?roomid=5&topicid=88071#88227
Thirteen fucking years.
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