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2005-10-25 00:56
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
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Implement http://ftp.pokefinder.org/ into CSDb

Implement http://ftp.pokefinder.org/ into CSDb for alternative download link search!
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2005-10-31 16:05
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
Quote: Now you got the links on both the release-page and it's edit page.

About the locking of entries.
If someone locks an entry it should be because to avoid people of messing up the data. At the same time the one locking the entry is now responsible for maintaining the entry with all the info there is. If they don't they shouldn't lock the entry. I think I have written something like this somewhere in the help/docs...
(There can be situations where people on purpose doesn't want some types of info on their entries, and then they of course have that right.)


Thank you, Klaus! :)
2005-11-01 00:14
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384
some tips on improving this feature... should be very easy to implement:

1. if the release name contains a groups name or abbrevation, remove it. filenames on ftp sites often dont contain them (especially if they are old releases) it wont give you to many false positives, and the user can always pick the right one himself
2. if the release name contains the word "preview" or "prv" respectivly, replace it by just "pr", this will find both and also add surprisingly few false positives.
3. remove all non-alphanumerical characters in the search query. filenames almost never contain them, and including them in the query will reduce the chance to find something drastically. if the file is a game, you might als want to check certain common suffixes (+4hi,fix,docs etc) since the filenames might not contain them
4. (most important imho) replace all spaces in the query by %2b (+) ... else you will get MANY false positives if a part of the query is a very common word.
2005-11-01 11:55
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
Quote: some tips on improving this feature... should be very easy to implement:

1. if the release name contains a groups name or abbrevation, remove it. filenames on ftp sites often dont contain them (especially if they are old releases) it wont give you to many false positives, and the user can always pick the right one himself
2. if the release name contains the word "preview" or "prv" respectivly, replace it by just "pr", this will find both and also add surprisingly few false positives.
3. remove all non-alphanumerical characters in the search query. filenames almost never contain them, and including them in the query will reduce the chance to find something drastically. if the file is a game, you might als want to check certain common suffixes (+4hi,fix,docs etc) since the filenames might not contain them
4. (most important imho) replace all spaces in the query by %2b (+) ... else you will get MANY false positives if a part of the query is a very common word.


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2005-11-01 16:04
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384
hence "remove all non-alphanumerical characters in the search query." :o)
2005-11-01 17:00
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
Quote: hence "remove all non-alphanumerical characters in the search query." :o)

you won :)
2005-11-01 21:07
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384
i noticed another thing that makes a lot of sense... remove abbrivated short forms like 's (for "is") and 'n (for "and") ... it's magic -> it+magic ... bop'n rumble -> bop+rumble .... etc :) much better search results that way :)
2005-11-01 21:32
Perff
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Posts: 1679
Now you people have noticed that it is possible to alter the search string in the new window that pops up????
;P
(I'm not planning to make this link-routine the first true AI.. :) )
2005-11-01 22:22
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384
ehrm.... AI ? all i suggested can be done in one line of php (or whatever else you are using) probably. atleast removing non alphnumeric characters is a must imho.
2005-11-02 08:05
Perff
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Posts: 1679
he.
I already did that - removing non alphnumeric characters if you havn't noticed. (Perhaps not all of them - had a small problem making a simple php-routine that removes all non alphanumeric chars, but not special letters like æøåôêá and what different contries have thought up. Anyone got a 100% idiot-proff thing to do that?)

I could just see where it was going. Removing simple chars is one thing. Next search for special abrivations and remove them or convert them. Also look for other words like preview, fix etc. and do stuff to them too. The next post would probably have sounded a bit like "Make a routine that understands the meaning of the title, and make a smart search from that understanding." ;)

.. or perhaps it's just me who is lazy.. hmm.. :):)
2005-11-02 10:40
CyberBrain
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Posts: 392
Is this pokefinder link really a good idea?

It doesn't give unique results, like download-links does.
So it's likely you won't get the release you were looking at in CSDb.

Wouldn't it perhaps encourage people to not upload files?

Also, if there is a release without a download-link and someone finds the file (f.e. at pokefinder), shouldn't he upload it at the release page, so that other people later will get the right (unique) file? If so, i guess the pokefinder-link not really needed (maybe it could be nice to have at the edit page, but not on the main release-page)
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