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2009-08-21 23:52
Turtle
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Fred Gray's Hysteria inspired by Rondo Veniziano?

Recently I came across a clip on youtube from the german "Sendung mit der Maus" which was accompanied by some classical music which at once reminded me of Fred Gray's Hysteria #3 - one of the best tunes ever in c64 history. So I found out that the tv-tune is called "La Serenissima" from Rondò Veniziano (1981). I googled a little bit but couldn't find anything that covered the similarities of both tunes. Neither STIL has any comment. What do you think? Was Fred inspired by this one? Or is this just cold coffee and I didn't googled good enough?

Fred: http://www.tld-crew.de/c64music/MUSICIANS/G/Gray_Fred/Hysteria...
Rondo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej_wRgBS5lI

 
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2009-08-22 13:27
GT
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Not only is the basic similar, also the change at 0:56 is about the same as in Hysteria. So there's a big chance that Fred Gray was inspiried by this.
2009-08-22 14:39
PAL

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I am really sure I posted something about the pop industry getting into the c64 scene with our heros back then and nowadays artists sampling c64 use stuff in their music and so on... the endless loop of most we hear see and feel around us today... the cycle of life... now and then someone puts in a nop or two and think abit and it comes out abit different. That is evolution probably...

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2009-08-22 18:26
Twoflower

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Did you folks miss that there actually exists a straight out cover of La Serenissima by Rondo Veniziano on the C-64? Incase you did, check out Ashley Hoggs wonderful Classical 2 tune.
2009-08-22 23:09
Turtle
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In my opinion that Ashley Hogg cover is quite a good example for what Jan Harris said. The mood of the original La Serenissima, that dramatical, elevated feeling could not be transported in Ashleys version. This one is less dynamic. Although the notes are the same the feeling isn't. Hysteria is rather similar to La Serenissima in that case. The feelings match.

And, I didn't intend any finger wagging towards Fred. That's for sure!

2009-08-23 10:49
SIDWAVE
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Stop the nitpicking :)
more than one note = chord
we say this so all can understand

2 notes = interval, yes correct, but regular people never heard of this, which is reason we just say chord :D
2009-08-23 11:38
chatGPZ

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hooray for accepting stupidity. next time you tell me "we call it ROM so everyone understands! who cares if its completely wrong when talking about a diskimage!"

btw, i learned the "a chord has 3 notes" in primary school, just like everyone else of our age should have. (and if they didnt, i am very sure they learned it later).

2009-08-23 12:05
SIDWAVE
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call it what you want, just as i do :D
2009-08-23 12:06
chatGPZ

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yeah lets forget proper terminology ... everyone should call anything what they want. it will surely help communicating properly a lot!

stupidity now!
2009-08-23 15:38
Danzig

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\o/ for groepaz: it took him just a 20 years to accept ;)
2009-08-23 15:48
chatGPZ

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZalC8kwl3QY \o/
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