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2007-11-28 22:22
Wile Coyote
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How many years does the C64 have remaining?

With activity down, combined with appearances of sceneres releasing old stuff created years back, I wonder how much the C64 scene can continue?

 
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2007-11-29 13:07
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
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Rumours say there are at least two cool Swedish parties coming up next year. Start working on your cool demos NOW fukkers!!! :)
2007-11-29 13:56
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3048
Quote: but I dont want to mention such a scene. the current plus4 scene shows pretty much what will happen to the c64 scene. 1-2 demo per year mostly 0, and some forum activities.

<Post edited by CreaMD on 29/11-2007 15:01>

C64 gives far better combination of AUDIO-VIDEO pleasures than any other machine. There are many outer scenes around C64 scene and also many inner scenes in C64 scene and it even reacehd the biggest producers ;-)) (I R Timboon). It surely won't die so soon as other scenes. We are reaching the half-life period (many (if not majority) of the sceners are over 30) some ex-sceners return back and enjoy it and (to my surprise) even the new ones appear from time to time (e.g. Uneksija, Knoeki, Lordnikon to name few that I know about). Of course the scene is currently in it's decadent period but I'm quite sure that it still haven't reached it's aural+visual limits ;-))

It's also important to know the history of other scenes. E.g. speccy never had so large scaled demo-scene as C64 (based mostly in UK and later in Russia, according to my experience Czech speccy scene was more into user-meetings, and power user stuff than to demo production). 8 bit Atari (the strognest base in Poland) is also quite small in comparison to c64 scene. I think that the sort of revival times for those scenes started only lately with all those crossplattform parties around the world. Including Forever Party which is currently having bigger visits from Atari and Speccy scene than from C64 (which is a bit stupid when I compare how big our scene is ;-).

p.s.:thanx god, the music is a linear experience.. that way SID never goes out of fashion ;-)) And actually anything that is displayed around good music is getting a new value itself. ;-)
2007-11-29 13:58
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: Rumours say there are at least two cool Swedish parties coming up next year. Start working on your cool demos NOW fukkers!!! :)

I heard of an even cooler party taking place in Holland. If I was part of this so-called scene, I would probably make a demo for that event ..
2007-11-29 13:59
Rough
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I'm optimistic as well, the C64 will continue for decades, I bet on that.

Too many people have the machine in their heart. 8)
2007-11-29 14:10
ready.

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 441
In my opinion the scene will continue for a long time, but it will be more and more spread in time. I mean that the number of releases per year will be less, not less and less but it will bias on a certain level. My thought is based on the fact that most of the today's sceners started their activity during their school days when they had lots of spare time. Now that we are growing older, some are also getting married, some make a good career, some have kids, .... and time for C64 scene is less and less.

At least I'm talking about me. Top priorities change in life, but I hope I'll always be working on something on the C64, maybe 1 hour per week or month, but something, at least.
2007-11-29 14:21
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
Same here. Got a job and a wife and tons of bills to pay.
Nevertheless, i cant resist tweaking on a new tune or a new musicdemo. Though my time is limited.
2007-11-29 14:30
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351
get divorced, quit your job. it's so easy! no excuses! :o)
2007-11-29 14:32
Conrad

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 847
ready: That's quite a true statement really. I remember when I was at school 6 years ago I had way more time to play and code with my c64 - but due to having no internet at the time because of low income, I never knew the scene still existed, hense why i didn't release anything.

Now being a student in higher education with tonnes of non stop work at very tight deadlines, it is harder to keep up with coding new things for the c64. Making music is not as bad as you are using already coded tools, but coding new ideas for new demos can consume a lot of time, especially if it's a unique demo effect.
2007-11-29 14:38
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
so much whining instead of making. I have made 2 parts lately, it didnt took more than a few hrs for a few days each.
2007-11-29 15:14
pernod
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Registered: Nov 2004
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I will retire in 29 years, then I will have a lot of time to make new demos.
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