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2016-11-01 15:20

Didi

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 488

Event id #2526 : Intro Creation Competition 2016

Sorry for skipping this event last year, but life is life and I simply would not have had the time to host this event in a proper way.

So finally X 2016 is over and the big productions are out. So maybe you are in the mood for a smaller project.

Competition runs from November 1st, 2016, until January 3rd, 2017. So you have a full 2 months to deliver your creations. This should be enough for an intro.

Please use this thread for questions, discussion and everything else concerning this competition.

THE RULES (same as in 2014, worked very well):
- Has to work on a plain stock C64 (PAL standard) without any extensions.
- Has to be a one-part intro. Fade-ins and fade-outs are OK.
- Has to contain at least one Logo at whatever size you like.
- Has to contain a changing or moving text message (e.g. scrolling text, different lines fading in & out, etc.)
- Has to contain music (not just a humming sound, please).
- Maximum RAM usage is $4000 bytes at one block, at whatever location you like. Screen RAM counts as used memory. Exclusions are system addresses like VIC (inkl. Color RAM), SID, CIA, Stack, Zero-page, IRQ vectors.
- Has to be interruptable any time by pressing SPACE-key (exception are fade-in and fade-out).
- Graphics, charsets and music do not need to be exclusive, but the code should be! So no reuse of existing code with just exchanged graphics and music.
- Intros may not have been used before entering the competition.
- Entries must be handed in as executable format startable with RUN (.prg or embedded in .t64 or .d64).
- Max. 3 entries per participant. Entries might be taken back from the compo until deadline. That means if you want to remove one of your works from the compo to make space for another entry from you, this can be done until deadline.

Deadline for entry submission is January 3rd, 2017 at 23:59:59 (11:59:59 pm) CET.
Voting closes at Sunday January 8th, 2017 at 23:59:59 (11:59:59 pm) CET.
Voting platform is CSDb (with all disadvantages it may have), therefore entries have to be posted here.
Entries will be ranked by weighted average of CSDb votes. Entries with the same weighted average are ranked by their percentages of 10s, 9s, etc.

No prices to win, just the fame. May the best creation win!

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2017-01-06 15:16

T.M.R
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Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 749

Quoting Jailbird

I find it kinda amusing that people are disputing votes on a novelty bogus contest where there's literally no award whatsoever for achieving a top position.

Well, there *is* a reward in that the folks behind the winning entries will have managed to come out at the top of a fifty plus pile of submissions; doing reasonably well in a strong field is always an ego boost whilst having the first vote on a release being an anonymous five does piss on the metaphorical chips somewhat.

Honestly, i just want to be loved... or at least lusted after, that works too. =-)

2017-01-06 15:37

Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1336

Quoting T.M.R

Honestly, i just want to be loved... or at least lusted after, that works too. =-)

Or at least dangle from the ceiling with apple in your mouth and being spanked fiercely as a reward xD Close or no cigar?

2017-01-06 16:26

T.M.R
Account closed

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 749

Quoting Jammer

Or at least dangle from the ceiling with apple in your mouth and being spanked fiercely as a reward xD Close or no cigar?

Well, the apple isn't really my style...? =-)

2017-01-06 17:07

DKT

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 99

For those who don't like to click to much (like I do ;-) ):

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B53D_0j-UlWqQi1KZVRoMXl6TGs

All entries sorted by group names.

GP: 5 entries
Atlantis: 4 entries
Mayday!: 3 entries
TND: 3 entries
Victory: 3 entries
Camelot: 2 entries
Cosine: 2 entries
Delta Machine: 2 entries
EXON: 2 entries
Finnish Gold: 2 entries
Laxity: 2 entries
Vision: 2 entries
...rest of groups: 1 entry

WHAT A GREAT COMPO! \o/

2017-01-06 17:17

jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578

Quoting T.M.R

Well, there *is* a reward in that the folks behind the winning entries will have managed to come out at the top of a fifty plus pile of submissions;

Yes, that would make sense, if...

- the compo would be anonymous, by what I mean no credits displayed, so it would be free of namevoting (sure, this wouldn't be foolproof since the group names would be there, but still)
- the voting would only start after the deadline (or even better, all the intros would be released at once)
- a sensible, non-anonymous voting system would be used, where every release would get the same amount of votes, or a single voter would spread votes from a range of 1 to 10 to 10 releases of choice (IIRC, like the voting went on C64.sk's Cover Compo)

...so participants would actually be confident of their achievements' legitimacy, and be able to feel a more or less accurate weight of appreciation from fellow sceners. It's just sad to see that people have to ask cretins to remove their downvotes from other intros in order to keep the compo fair and square.

Till all that's sorted out, I can't really think more of these CSDb compos than being delightful happenings where nice stuff are released (which is good of course). But I couldn't care less about the rankings, as they seem highly influenced by various social affairs and timing. I don't really understand in what way could that boost anyone's ego, but maybe I'm just naive.

2017-01-06 17:40

Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 521

nice long discussion. Oswald, pleez pass me some of those popcorns!
so... ICC2016 gone - where's DOTY2017?
:)

2017-01-06 18:38

T.M.R
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Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 749

Quoting Jailbird

Yes, that would make sense, if...

- the compo would be anonymous, by what I mean no credits displayed, so it would be free of namevoting (sure, this wouldn't be foolproof since the group names would be there, but still)

Most of us have a recognisable "style", so even if we went to extremes where every logo said "Anonymous" and the scrolltext was Lorem Ipsum there'd still be ways to work out whose work it was... even assuming you can persuade a group of sceners to keep their collective gobs shut for the entire duration of the competition. =-)

Quoting Jailbird

But I couldn't care less about the rankings, as they seem highly influenced by various social affairs and timing.

i'm not entirely sure that isn't to some degree true of any scene competition though...?

Quoting Jailbird

I don't really understand in what way could that boost anyone's ego, but maybe I'm just naive.

[Shrugs] We're all different; some people are mature enough not to need it like you, others are emotional car crashes waiting to happen like me and the rest probably sit somewhere between those points. =-)

2017-01-06 19:39

jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578

Quoting T.M.R

Most of us have a recognisable "style",

Well then I'm probably quite bad at recognizing styles, as by the visuals/audials alone, I'd never guess 100% correctly the people involved in the current top 10 intros (except the graphician in New Year's Resolution) :)

Quoting T.M.R

so even if we went to extremes where every logo said "Anonymous" and the scrolltext was Lorem Ipsum there'd still be ways to work out whose work it was... even assuming you can persuade a group of sceners to keep their collective gobs shut for the entire duration of the competition. =-)

At least it would somewhat reduce the votes which are directed to particular persons' traits instead of the actual quality of their releases.

Quoting T.M.R

i'm not entirely sure that isn't to some degree true of any scene competition though...?

Certainly, but I'd rather participate in a contest where those elements are much less influential factors than they are on CSDb compos. A huge network of friends and fans is a vast advantage which sometimes can't be matched by talent only. Anonymity solves that to a certain extent.

2017-01-06 19:57

Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 954

:) Fans, thanks! Friends, thanks! Others, fuck you!

When we have the results in a few days, would that be much different compared to using a voting-system such as the c64.sk music compos? I doubt it.

2017-01-06 21:14

jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578

Quoting Hein

When we have the results in a few days, would that be much different compared to using a voting-system such as the c64.sk music compos? I doubt it.

Right, probably the same releases in the top 10-15 just in different order. But a voting system similar to C64.sk's would significantly discourage the manipulative/scheming voting behavior, and there would be a more realistic order on the leading places.

I don't really get it. If the participants' only motivation is just to reach a high rank and not to win the actual compo, then why are some people bringing up the faulty voting system at all? As it doesn't really influences the highest positions.

But if the point of the compo is to win it, then isn't it more uplifting to reach the top in a way which is the least prone to ill will?

Well, whatever whatever tingles your jingles.

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