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2007-02-25 21:35
ptoing

Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271
VIC20, +4, C16 and so on

I think it would be nice to have all Commodore 8 bit machines on the CSDb, it might even generate more demos and stuff for the less common systems.
 
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2007-05-02 14:33
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
Well, now that you added the basic framework and everyone can switch out what he doesn't want to see, I can think of no reason to not include C16, +4 and VIC-20.
The majority went for only allowing VIC-20 in addition to what we already have, though.

But it's up to you, Perff, really. People won't stone you to death in any case, as the solution you prepared allows for easy filtering of unwanted content.
2007-07-20 11:31
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Any news considering this topic?
2007-07-20 11:41
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094
also add pet / superpet, etc :) how about KIM-1 ? :) I am serious.
2007-07-22 04:53
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
The Plus/4 scene needs you... NOT!
2007-07-22 10:35
Luca

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 178
Quote: The Plus/4 scene needs you... NOT!

...but it has no relevance in order to decide for a new CSDb course. Did you simply attempt to unleash dogs?
2007-07-22 11:25
yago

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 333
And oswaldbogar entering the fight did also not calm down the mood :-)
from my perspective, vic20 is much better here then +4, because there is no homepage for vic20-scene stuff (just a forum for general vic20), and the vic20 and c64 folks are almost the same.
But we are repeating ourselves here :-)

2007-07-22 11:47
Murphy

Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 11
Quote: The Plus/4 scene needs you... NOT!

It's not true! Not the plus/4 scene, only Csabo, the creator of the plus/4 world (and maybe some others ?). I really like the idea of the united 8 bit commodore scene database!
2007-07-22 13:39
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Ok, Csabo's reasoning fucked me up a bit, and the only comments from Plus/4 sceners more or less supported his opinion. I get it why is he upset, he's concerned about loosing focus from his site. Personally, I don't see any other real reason for being negative considering this topic.
At first, I was under the impression that the sceners from other platforms will happily accept the expansion of the database, but now it seems to me that it would actually do more harm to you than be helpful.
Still, there are two options: one is to meet your needs and forget the whole update, as it's still not implemented yet. Whilst the other one is to hold a bit healthier discussion. Perhaps we could also prove that most of the C64 guys are not idiots who eat Plus/4 sceners for dinner (and vice versa), and quite a lot of us actually want to know/learn more about other C= platforms.

Btw. since you have quite mixed feelings there, what about you guys also taking a poll about expanding CSDb? I guess that the Plus/4 scene's decision should be also taken into consideration.
2007-07-22 16:15
Sixx

Registered: May 2005
Posts: 229
The +4 scene got their own place, leave 'em alone. Vic-20? Why ? There was/is hardly anything that can be called a scene on the Vic-20 is there? =) Buuuuut, where's the place for the second best C= ever, the AMIGA? Seriously, if there is two Commodore machines that is linked together it's the C64 and AMIGA, eh? Try to find some decent info about the old AMIGA scene... Bring it on!
2007-07-22 18:13
Murphy

Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 11
Quote: The +4 scene got their own place, leave 'em alone. Vic-20? Why ? There was/is hardly anything that can be called a scene on the Vic-20 is there? =) Buuuuut, where's the place for the second best C= ever, the AMIGA? Seriously, if there is two Commodore machines that is linked together it's the C64 and AMIGA, eh? Try to find some decent info about the old AMIGA scene... Bring it on!

A one day old topic with several replies, it doesn't represent the point of view of the whole plus/4 scene. There are lot of groups that have relases to C64 and plus/4 aswell. Dekadence, Creators, Cosine, The Dreams, Resource, and also some sceners using different handle for the 2 different platforms. (Profi 1/Profik= Larry/Wilds)... The 98% of the plus/4 demos using sids from C64 musicians, (with converters or with sid card hardware extension,) and lot of older tools, games and effects converted from C64. So the section between the two scene is really big compared to the numbers of the plus/4 sceners.
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