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2006-01-15 19:05

Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2928

Release id #26541 : Old Skool Demo

Because of the apparently inability by Wanderer to leave the entry for "Oldskool Demo" alone (he has deleted and re-entered the entry four times now) and take the heat like a real scener - I've posted this here:

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Submitted by stash_wd on 14 January 2006
muhahah 20 years of ripping.. why he keeps on fucking up rasters is coz he rips them from pal demos.. wanderer u suck

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Submitted by Naphalm on 14 January 2006
wanderer, a pity you have never done anything valuable but just bark on the others.

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Submitted by mermaid on 14 January 2006
Best demo ever! Twenty years on the scene! Wow, that's pretty impressive. How long until this gets deleted and added again?

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Submitted by Style on 14 January 2006
How the hell do you manage to mistime simple rasters in both NTSC and PAL?

And an 'FLD' scroller that bounces about 7 pixels? :D

Glitches, nastiness.... egads

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Submitted by Groepaz on 14 January 2006
pahahaha. how low can you get?

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Submitted by stash_wd on 14 January 2006
wanderer: from what demo did u rip?? muhahaha yeah rely lame to delete peoples opinoins and this demo sux

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Submitted by radiantx on 14 January 2006
We've discussed several solutions for better policies regarding the editing and deleting of entries in CSDb on #C-64... However, just like the problem with anonymous voting, I see few signs that the admins are taking things seriously.

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Submitted by Zyron on 14 January 2006
Yeah this is really lame, deleting & re-adding... The old entry should be restored & this site seems to be in need of some heavy moderating these days.

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Submitted by Murdock on 14 January 2006
WTF is this ??? kindergarden ? yesterday I put my comment and now I see that it's deleted...it sucks...

PS. Hobbit was the member of Venom, now he doesn't ? WTF ?

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Submitted by Slarti on 14 January 2006
Kickback told me this was a joke demo. I guess that explains it.

What do you get when Old Skool ends? No class! Badoom tish.

I agree with the original comments that have been removed here, calling something "old school" does not make it good.

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Submitted by Britelite on 14 January 2006
Yeah, it's still crap

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Submitted by Scout on 13 January 2006
It was deleted because the negative comments and low ratings of the original post of this release would be deleted too.

Nothing has changed tho; still one big pile of timing errors.

How sad.

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Submitted by cba on 13 January 2006
? why was this deleted and redone today?

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Submitted by Wanderer on 15 January 2006
Simon Scott is a moron. FLD scroller moves 15 pixels down, not 7 and is indeed FLD. Works fine on NTSC machines.

There are NO raster splits in this demo. People need to lay off the hallucinogins.

Works 100% in NTSC.

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Submitted by Slarti on 15 January 2006
As I said in my last comment, Kickback told me this was intended to be some kind of new year's joke demo, so I can't see why the co-author is so touchy about it.

Also, as can be seen from the saved comments that were deleted, Stash said nothing about ripped PAL routines. He asked where the routines had been ripped from.

Why would simple colour splits be so wonky? Even if routines were ripped, that wouldn't guarantee that they would appear properly in NTSC or PAL, if used incorrectly.

Anyway, I'll say again my opinion of this release. Calling something old school does not make it good. If it is a joke demo, then I suppose it's making fun of old school stuff.

What do you get when Old Skool ends? No class! Badoom tish.

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Submitted by Kickback on 15 January 2006
Ok once again I will add to this stupid thing.... My page... my CRAPPY ASS PAGE FROM LIKE 10 - 12 YEARS... IS OLD! EVERYTHING IN IT. The only thing NEW in it is a cheap ass logo made in 5 mins.

This is all childish shit, why delete shit? Why repost? Why Re-comment? All I can say is act your friggin age man! My kids do shit like this!
Questions or Comments about my CRAPPY ASS PAGE, you can find me on IRC. Which who would have questions? Its a piece of shit dug up from a crap disk? Everyone has these!

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Submitted by Style on 15 January 2006
Bugs like shit in both ntsc and pal. 'FLD' scroller isnt. 'FLD' scroller bugs like shit. Game is a joke (nice sprites tho). Author keeps removing release to avoid negative comments. This shows how insecure he is.

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Submitted by SECRET MAN on 15 January 2006
I know some groups which would use the first part as first release or better as Prv.

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Submitted by Murdock on 15 January 2006
Ok let me write this comment again. I liked this demo, it has a nice oldsk00l mood! The only thing which I've missed was the lack of the oldsk00l 3-colours logos in the last parts :) I think that the game part should be in the middle of the demo or even at the end, not at the beginning.

Right, this is NTSC demo, so I see no reason for shouting about bugs. Also personal feelings to the author of this release shouldn't affect the comments and the voting.

The one and only bad thing about this is that this release got re-added so I have to type this comment once again (and last time for sure). Please avoid doing this thing again.

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Submitted by Wanderer on 14 January 2006
An explanation on the Old Skool demo:
- The demo is mine, I coded it (most of it) and created the entry. I have the right to remove it if I so desire.

- There is no "loader", only a cruncher that does take some time but if not for the crunch, the linking would not have been possible.

- The demo is NTSC not PAL. So it is not possible that any PAL routines were ripped if it doesn't work on PAL (Stash is mentally delayed and has no comprehension of this). There is no flicker and the rasters are fine if you are under NTSC. If your small mind cannot understand this, I cannot help you.

- The game was made in 2005. The plotter made in 2005. The other parts were made in 1989 so it's GOING to look old. It's not going to have any transitions. That is how demos were made. You pressed space and it went to the next page. This is something to be expected even in today's demos from time to time. People just don't understand the pages were not coded in 2005 they were made almost 20 years ago.

- Ripped music? What do you expect from the 1980's. We're not all music composers and even today's intros and demos don't necessarily use custom made music.

- If you have a comment on the demo fine. But if you want to leave ignorant and unfounded comments because you have a personal grudge (Mermaid, Stash, etc.), I'll continue to DELETE the entry. Things like "Wanderer ripped routines from a PAL demo" when the demo doesn't even work on PAL shows nothing but stupidity.

Cheers!

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Submitted by Dbug on 14 January 2006
Slow loader, no intermediate fades or any efforts of transition, ripped musics, flickering rasters, uninspired and short scrollers. And the slowest dots routine I ever saw !
Graphics of the shoot em up part are nice.

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Submitted by mermaid on 14 January 2006
Wow, 20 years in the scene! This demo rocks. There seems to be a bug in CSDB though, since the votes and comments for this entry keep disappearing for some reason?

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Submitted by radiantx on 14 January 2006
Hehe, votes and comments all gone, once more. :-)

http://oldsk00l.50megs.com

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2006-01-16 00:02

Wanderer
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Actually I've let his comments go for far too long.

"press DEL u fucking retard.." is abusive, not to mention the ones that you didn't read before they were removed.

On that note Damian, it is rather creepy to know that around the clock you'll login to come peek at my release and archive it. This, coming from the boy who once cried "I'm being stalked". It's nice to know there are dedicated people like you and Moloch who will sign in multiple times a day for the sole purpose of looking at my release and archiving the comments. Why you concern yourself with me, I'll never know but you are the guy who is fucked up on drugs.

Yes we need moderation. The attacks began a long time ago when Lazlo opened his mouth with verbal abuse. It was not initiated by me. And yep, that entry is doing the same thing he's done to me. But I've decided if other people can get away with abusive comments (NOT negative ones) than I will just turn around and do it right back.

So let's borrow a page from Stash and use his language:

Stash is a fucking moron who contributed nothing to the scene except his semen-stained saliva which was used to lick stamps on mail trades. One original supply and that's it. Weeee heee lets shave our head and smoke pot all day while.

As you can see, that sort of language really serves no purpose, and does nothing to improve the CSDB scene. It's only purpose is when the person typing it, has become too angry and upset that they are left without anything to say. Style and Stash are both two people who, have become so upset, they can't communicate anything capable of easing how they feel.

2006-01-16 00:03

SECRET MAN
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Quote: Secret Man: talking out your ass again. It was Max and Skinhead I spoke to, hardly had any contact with Marc at all. Regarding Blueboxing, which the the easiest form of phreaking in my opinion, interesting what Groepaz said there about OB. Hahaha. You lose on so many counts.

Its really funny to read all the arguments from our Crocodile Dundee.

2006-01-16 00:42

Wanderer
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Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 478

You know what's sad? The people who run CSDB were hesitant to lock the forums, hoping that we'd work this out on our own.

It took them locking the forums and stating that they did not want any more messages relating to this sort of thing, to end things.

Of course I expected this to happen... now people turn to the CSDB entries to vent how they feel.

Poor Slarti is pissing his pants asking for moderation. The sad reality is CSDB shouldn't need moderation at all (look at Wikipedia/Pouet). I think when I logon here and find some guy who thinks snorting mushrooms is his life, has left 5 comments in a row on my release, he ought not ask for moderation. I think this is more an issue of self-control.

Jazzcat.. whined about how CSDB was dying.
Slarti... whined about how CSDB was dying.
Stash... claimed he was ending this entirely and to visit his page.
Style... claimed things were dying and how I needed to go.

And now every one of the above mentioned people are themselves leaving ignorant comments that really reflect a personal view instead of a view of the demo.

Something about Australia, it breeds hypocracy and stupidity. Moderate yourselves first. :)

2006-01-16 00:54

Deev

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 206

Can anyone explain why people get so wound up by the opinions of someone they think to be an arsehole?

2006-01-16 00:57

Wanderer
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Posts: 478

Quote: Can anyone explain why people get so wound up by the opinions of someone they think to be an arsehole?

These people are the same ones who kept saying, "oh just ignore him and he will go away" or "he is a troll".

Poor Damian cried a river of tears about the injustice done to him, asked for moderation and said that what was done by the mods was too little and too late. He even had the gaul to call me a troll. His butt-buddy Style agreed.

Now he logs in daily to worship my entry, archive it and make 5 comments in a row about it.

How do you ignore someone or call them a troll when you're chasing after their entries literally every hour? He almost falls into the same category of kook as Stash for devoting a web page to me.

How ghey.... but then again, I totally understand Damian has never been able to release all that hurt inside him.

2006-01-16 01:04

Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044

Quote: These people are the same ones who kept saying, "oh just ignore him and he will go away" or "he is a troll".

Poor Damian cried a river of tears about the injustice done to him, asked for moderation and said that what was done by the mods was too little and too late. He even had the gaul to call me a troll. His butt-buddy Style agreed.

Now he logs in daily to worship my entry, archive it and make 5 comments in a row about it.

How do you ignore someone or call them a troll when you're chasing after their entries literally every hour? He almost falls into the same category of kook as Stash for devoting a web page to me.

How ghey.... but then again, I totally understand Damian has never been able to release all that hurt inside him.

What a ridiculously racist statement. Obviously it shows the lack of humanity by the person who created the post and is irrelevant to the origins of our discussion, which regards this database and the C64.

No wonder the numbers are against Wanderer (and Secret Man) - fools behaving like fools.

2006-01-16 01:06

Wanderer
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Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 478

Quote: What a ridiculously racist statement. Obviously it shows the lack of humanity by the person who created the post and is irrelevant to the origins of our discussion, which regards this database and the C64.

No wonder the numbers are against Wanderer (and Secret Man) - fools behaving like fools.

There wasn't a single racist word in the entire message. LMAO

http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/K/kook.html

The ONSLAUGHT of stupidity continues... and it's migratory path appears to hail from Australia.

Kudos to Moloch for creating a useless thread.

I'm done with this thread... too many stupid people.

2006-01-16 02:16

Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044

The fact that your bundling up all Australians into one statement that is irrelevant to the origins of this conversation is proof that your as retarded and lame as the reputation that has proceeded you.

Why are so many people having disagreements with you?

Deeds not words are remember.

Anyone can write a thread of bullshit and so far all I've seen from you is threads full of shit and crappy demos with no substance or skill. No wonder your the butt of jokes in the scene. Yoru attempts are laughable entertainment.

2006-01-16 02:42

Wanderer
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Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 478

Quote: The fact that your bundling up all Australians into one statement that is irrelevant to the origins of this conversation is proof that your as retarded and lame as the reputation that has proceeded you.

Why are so many people having disagreements with you?

Deeds not words are remember.

Anyone can write a thread of bullshit and so far all I've seen from you is threads full of shit and crappy demos with no substance or skill. No wonder your the butt of jokes in the scene. Yoru attempts are laughable entertainment.

>Why are so many people having disagreements with you?

Stash - idiot upset over what Slarti told him
Slarti - upset that he was outed as a druggee
Style - backing up his buddy Slarti
yourself - you admitted in PM that you have to stick up for Slarti

Most everyone won't get involved :)

So you are saying Australians are now a RACE of their own? Please come back and defend that argument when your drugs wear off and you're coherent.

Idiot.

2006-01-16 02:43

Slartibartfast
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Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 230

For the record, for the person who seems to not understand how CSDb entries work, I left a comment, info on the hidden part, trivia and goofs. I think that is actually four comments, and considering they are all entered on the same form, it's not so surprising.

Anyway, this is clearly Wanderer baiting in his usual trolling fashion, although it's interesting to note he's begun attacking CSDb administration as well.

Have fun with your trolling playground while it's still tolerated.

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