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Case
Registered: Aug 2002
Posts: 142 |
Scene DVD
I have started to create a scene dvd, what i am hoping to do is create a dvd full of c64 scene release (demos, magazine, tools) where each release is a d64 image so that you can run them straight from the dvd.
to do this, i will need some help, not just in collection all the releases, but in converting them into d64 images.
what would you recommend for converting p00 and the other file formats into d64 images (PC please).
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Case
Registered: Aug 2002
Posts: 142 |
I would prefer d64 images aswell.
as for the date, we could always have a text file/excell/spreadsheet for each group listing all the demos and (if known) release dates etc, but that will make alot of work for some everyone, it will also take away valuable space from the purpose of the collection.
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SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
Quote: Wouldnt it be better to have like big groups as Crest, Blackmail, Horizon in the root and then a various with the rest? :)
Since, Im a collector myself (however just swedish productions) I'd like to participate, though, my time is right now limited. I think this is a good idea that I hope will be kept alive.
There is one problem with the "/Crest/19961007_We_Rule.D64" notation and that is when you have no clue which year the demo was released. No dates, no hints in scrollers etc. Would that be "/Crest/19YYMMDD_We_Rule.D64" then?
and my vote goes to d64 only.
I suggested the same as Case writes, and about unknown dates, we just have to decide what to do.
19YYMD..... seems good.
The purpose is to make chronology where possible,
and also it then is very valuable for a fast database creation.
I think D64 is the best, because of filenames, I want them as they originally are. |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
This seems good. I also agree with D64 only. This site should include everything except for MAGS and CRACKS.
Seems things are quite well good.
One day Mason will launch his CRACKS site, and there already exists http://mags.c64.org
So a good representation of our scene.
Preservation is the key. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
I use the next naming convention for demos:
group - date - demoname.d64, with one demo per image.
So for example:
camelot - 2004.01.19 - you know the routine.d64
if a date is not completely known, part of it can be left out.
Example:
orion - 1988.04.xx - run for cover.d64
sphinx - 198x.xx.xx - cybersphinx.d64
This way I always get a nice chronologically sorted dir. Demos sorted per group, but I make a distinction between the quality of releases as well (so Horizon & Crest are in a different category than, say, WWE). Also, if a demo is a coop between max 4 groups, the file will be present several times.
Ofcourse this is based on my own personal preferences, for this project I would leave out that seperation, just dirs o-9, a, b, c etcetera. As for what it should contain, I would say just (real) demos, maybe music & graphic collections would qualify just as long as they're more than a bunch of tunes/pictures on a disk together without a menu or sth. Please please please leave out the rest, I don't want to waste my time on notes, logos, tunes and pictures, I want to waste it on demos only :) |
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iopop
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 317 |
I'm also very found of the "group-demoname.d64" notation. Since it makes it much easier when you want to compile stuff and send to others plus the trackability is alot easier then just having tons of images called "demo2.d64". |
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wreg
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Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 679 |
send to others can not be realised over the filename, since we have to think of updates, how would one know which is the updated files?
file-regognition should be realised over some checksum or hash value!
clearmamepro is a good solution for having the same filebase on everyones hdd, people can create files of demos they miss, and others can fulfill their wishes through this program, all with just a few mouse clicks ...
and we can hand out different style databases for clearmame so all different needs concerning the naming of the files can be fulfilled:
Demoname (Date)(Groupname).d64
Date Demoname.d64
and so on ... |
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SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
Well, you have the datestamp on the file, but this can sometimes be cleared or get false.
If you don't want a collection datestamp on the filename, what about using the ID on the D64 ?
There's 5 chars.. can write 2004C for december 2004
Fullyear+month as hex. ?
There's no room for year+week, if you want full year,
but 8633 could mean 1986 week 33.
I just dont like 0433.
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wreg
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Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 679 |
the id on the d64? i dont want to create new files!
a hash value clearly identifies an image
why not use already proven systems?
what if an image gets renamed? do you want to exchange it everytime the name gets changed? why not use some existing system which can easily apply such changes to ones filebase using small update files?!??
the way should be finding a d64.file, calculate the hash value, then store all information in a database using the hash value as id
i will write some text about a way handling updates would be pretty easy and post it on the list if wanted |
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Earthshaker
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 118 |
Wreg is right! I also use Clearmame pro to sort my collection. It's a very fast way to rename your collection and to spot the double entries.
@wreg: I still have to send the dvd, it will come, don't worry. ;) |
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Case
Registered: Aug 2002
Posts: 142 |
we could talk forever about how we could do something, how about we move forward and decide on somethings.
1. directory structure
A,B,C,D etc. groups like 20cc,711,2000ad will be in a folder called 0. maybe a # directory for things like "demo of the year". "the singles collection" and links from each individual group pointing there.
2. each group to have its own sub-folder.
3. file nameing. files to be named as follows:
year-month-date_demoname.d64
1991-xx-xx_paranoid.d64 (the 'xx' represents asyet unknown data).
4. use the clrmamepro program to help find doubles etc.
its time to stop talking and start on the long journey to build something worthwhile and that will last for years to come.
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