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2005-11-11 08:55
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
Cooperations

I was going to submit some cracks from Ikari+Talent when I noticed to my surprise that there's no entry for this coop yet.
What's the though about this? Should I add I+T as a new group or should I credit all I+T cracks to both groups?
I'd say a new group is needed to make it easier to find the releases from the coop more easily.
There's already a couple of other coops added, such as Success + The Ruling Company, <group id=843>, WOW+ROLE.
 
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2005-11-11 19:01
Dishy

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 241
Well, seems it´s actually not that easy..

Also X-Ray was in co-op with Success in 1990, but also The Arrogance didn´t add that as a group in here, when he cleared up the whole history of Success.

Later X-Ray was also in cooperation with Transcom in about 1990/1991.

Crazy was in co-op with Lotus in 89/90 and later with G*P. Also G*P was in cooperation with Fire Eagle for about a month.






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2005-11-11 19:13
Dishy

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 241
Hmm, actually I think the co-op between X-Ray+Success has been created in here, as I think I remember, that Mason/Unicess was added to that memberlist, but then The Arrogance corrected that, and put Mason on the X-Ray list instead of the co-op memberlist.. Seems that someone has deleted that co-op in here again.. Probably The Arrogance.


Actually also Vision and Sire was in co-op in about 1989/90. If you have some of their releases, I would very much like to check it out ;-)

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2005-11-11 21:41
Matt

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 598
yea sounds to me it's getting a bit confuzing all those coops.
wow+rush
wow+intruders
wow+role (eheh)
wow+shadedesigns

anyway, lots of coops out there that were brought alive that only last 1 release. thats not really a coop coop if u know what I mean. the wow+shadedesigns is only 1 simple example. and there's heaps more
2005-11-12 07:58
Earthshaker

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 118
But its still a fact that people aren't a member of a coop, but just a member of one of the groups in that coop. So you cant add em as member of the coop, just as member of one of those groups.

I really think that the option i mentioned before should be implented and not only in a v2 version of the database. Who knows how long that will take before that version arrives.

All coop entries i entered, are just credited to the two groups in that coop.
2005-11-12 08:14
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
There are cases were a coop needs a separate entry to store information which is specific for the coop only but not valid for any of the involved groups alone.
2005-11-12 10:48
V-12

Registered: Nov 2003
Posts: 206
It would be nonsense to add to CSDB all cooperations as the new groups. I agree with H.O. opinion about coops, they should be credited for both group.

2005-11-12 14:24
CyberBrain
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Posts: 392
I must admit i don't know much about how these coops excatly worked. But werent some of the coops more like groups (having own members, etc), than just two groups working together?
2005-11-12 16:46
SECRET MAN
Account closed

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 336
I remember a lot of Cooperations like:

Genesis + Fire Eagle

Alpha Flight + Paramount

Light Circle + Radwar

Fantasy Cracking Service + The Last Science

Online+Ikari

Image+The Blasters

Beastie Boys + The light Circle

Federation against Copyright+The Lost Science

Wanderer Group+Pentacle

Trianon + Starline

Madsquad+ C64CG

Trsi+Dytec

and so........
2005-11-12 16:58
Tch
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Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 512
Quote: I must admit i don't know much about how these coops excatly worked. But werent some of the coops more like groups (having own members, etc), than just two groups working together?

It was very uncommon for someone to be in two groups (musicians the exception).
And if they were,it was more being a member of a sub-group within the group.
Especially crackers stuck to one group only.
All coops I know of,had no ´coop-members´.
It was always mentioned which group the cracker was part of.
2005-11-12 19:16
Graham
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Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 990
If a cooperation is so "strong" that you cannot tell which person is member of which group, then it is not a coop anymore but a new group which just has the name "X + Y soft".
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