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Secret Man / The real Elite
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Secret Man - Rocking on X-Box
Hi to ya all !
Its the year of the X-Box ! I play all my old favotite c64 games on my x-box with vice64x and trade - swap x-box games and mp3 music ! If someone have some fun to trade some cool stuff leave me mail.
600 Gbyte Mp3 Music on my harddrives.
Secret Man - The fast Man on X-Box
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Westbam
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Quote: And you STILL keep this running...I give a Olympic medal to Westbam for his relaxed way of arguing. I myself am VERY interested to see this list of 21 games. Wonder why there wasnt any big discussions about Legend recracking years back, read 90 and forward, when I was around. Hrms..
Or WAS there?
Hail to the King...
Secret Man stated that Anthrax had recracked 21 games.
Re-cracking means (at least that was the way the original rule was made up) that you take a crack from someone else, remove their intro and put yours in front of...
As I said before, I hardly doubt that any of the big groups ever did that... As far as it goes for this, Legend *NEVER* recracked any game.
In case you want to continue this discussion on a re-release basis (you propably just mixed things up), I hardly doubt we won´t find a group that didn´t get into the situation that something like that happened. I can easily roll up some titles groups like Legend, Illusion, Fairlight, Talent, Dominators, Genesis*Project, Action etc. have accidentally re-released...
I cannot remember I ever blamed someone for not knowing 15000+ released games on the Commodore C64 so far by heart... So I am eager to see this list of 21 games asap...
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midfit
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Actually I still can't believe that somebody honestly expresses that Legend should have recracked. I mean let's check the fact which persons were behind that name. And regarding this you had atleast 100 years of cracking experience behind it. If you mix that with many successful attempts at removing protections where they came and not waiting to dupe a specific cracker's style and add it with the work most of the Legend dudes invested into tools, it's impossible. It's no secret that Anthrax and/or Westbam were no crackers in first place. They were suppliers. But if you regard which dudes often called themself 'crackers' at that time and were releasing pre-cracked original copies, I would say they had far more glance than a certain former Hysteric member and later Alpha Flight member. Guess who..
Well. Everybody can make his own opinion, just regard how often you saw 'cracked by the will of god' in one release, while it was meeting the quality standards of the name behind it. And guess who did these releases ...
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Radar
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Sure, a re-release could have happened and I guess that nearly every big group failed into that trap. BUT re-cracking is something totally different, the definition has been pointed out by Westbam & Midfit already.
And just to steal the words of the next caller concerning Midfit using the word 'pre-crack'... Let's make up an example:
The game TOKI from cartridge - if Hysteric would have released TOKI (what they didn't), they got the pre-crack then. They didn't know how to handle the cartridge, so it had to be tranfered to disk by somebody else and all they needed to do was to re-write the load-routines. Well, they couln_d even do that, but anyhow... Shithead used to be a great ripper, so after finally understanding other peoples routines, TOKI would have been on the next years warez-disk then. Comprende? |
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Westbam
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Quote: Sure, a re-release could have happened and I guess that nearly every big group failed into that trap. BUT re-cracking is something totally different, the definition has been pointed out by Westbam & Midfit already.
And just to steal the words of the next caller concerning Midfit using the word 'pre-crack'... Let's make up an example:
The game TOKI from cartridge - if Hysteric would have released TOKI (what they didn't), they got the pre-crack then. They didn't know how to handle the cartridge, so it had to be tranfered to disk by somebody else and all they needed to do was to re-write the load-routines. Well, they couln_d even do that, but anyhow... Shithead used to be a great ripper, so after finally understanding other peoples routines, TOKI would have been on the next years warez-disk then. Comprende?
A decade would be rather likely to make him crack a game like this I think... |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
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Actually I didn't want to waste more time on this moronic thread, but when I see that Secret Man is fucking around in this database by deleting entries that other active people have built up and spent quite some time to accurately preserve the history of this computer and its scene, all I can say is:
This is not funny anymore!!!
I wonder how much longer the maintainers of this site will keep their eyes closed in view of this... :-/
(Yeah, I already did send a PM to them) |
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Radar
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Quote: Actually I didn't want to waste more time on this moronic thread, but when I see that Secret Man is fucking around in this database by deleting entries that other active people have built up and spent quite some time to accurately preserve the history of this computer and its scene, all I can say is:
This is not funny anymore!!!
I wonder how much longer the maintainers of this site will keep their eyes closed in view of this... :-/
(Yeah, I already did send a PM to them)
If Secret Lady seriously deletes and screws up entries in this database, he has to be deleted AT ONCE. |
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Anthrax
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Well, what else than lame actions can be expected by a total lamer like Scret Man ???
Anthrax / Legend |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
So stop defying him already. Jesus, you guys made your point: Secret Man is a lame lying loser, no need to stress it anymore, esp. not if it could cause damage to the csdb itself. Some of us have spend a *lot* of time putting data in it, you know .. If you really want to continue your war why not take it somewhere else?
Or can't I say this because I was never part of the elite cracking scene? :) |
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Anthrax
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Secret Stupid Wannabe Man :
I never recracked a single game you dumb faggot. It is making me sick reading your stupid shit again and again.
No evidences, just pure bullshit...
I am really looking forward to see the list of my so-called recracks to shove it up your ass!
The Dark Judge :
Just to make sure I understood you correctly, we are supposed to surrender to a lamer like Scret Man because of his lame behaviour and his stupid threats on how he could crash the forum and delete members ???
Boy, if the whole world would life up to your point of view, El Qaida would rule this planet and terrorism would be the job our kids would dream of...
Anthrax / Legend
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: Secret Stupid Wannabe Man :
I never recracked a single game you dumb faggot. It is making me sick reading your stupid shit again and again.
No evidences, just pure bullshit...
I am really looking forward to see the list of my so-called recracks to shove it up your ass!
The Dark Judge :
Just to make sure I understood you correctly, we are supposed to surrender to a lamer like Scret Man because of his lame behaviour and his stupid threats on how he could crash the forum and delete members ???
Boy, if the whole world would life up to your point of view, El Qaida would rule this planet and terrorism would be the job our kids would dream of...
Anthrax / Legend
I'm not asking you to "surrender", as you've already "won": most people here are convinced you are right and he isn't. But I'm asking you to be sensible.
For you it might be easy to "give up" the csdb if necessary, but then again you've only just become a member. Me, and a lot of other people, have been around here for quite some time, trying to build up the definitive sceners database. If you would help with that, cool, we sure could use your knowledge. If you don't and just want to hang around on the forum, that's also cool, I'm certain you've got some great stories to share.
But if all you're after is slagging down Secret Man and deliberately running the risk that he might delete data, just so you can make your point, why not take it somewhere else?
And please, don't compare this to terrorism, your life is not threatened, just your vanity. And if you do want to make that comparison, at least make sure to spell "Al Quida" right.
Just because you did some great stuff in the past doesn't mean you have the right to gamble with what we (as the csdb users) are doing here. Especially not since the solution is so very, very simple: just let it go. |
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