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2002-09-12 17:11
Richard

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 621
Cracker Charts

I'm starting to get really confused now. Some diskmags, such as Vandalism news, do cracker charts with no points to any fake groups (Lamer Labels) however, Arachnophobia puts fake groups as well as proper groups on to the cracker charts. I don't think lamer labels should be added to the cracker charts, the lamer labels should represent the cracker groups, and they should get points. I think it is very silly the way Arachnophobia does the charts, and that it is right what Onslaught said in Vandalism news, regarding the charts.
2002-09-12 19:38
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: I'm starting to get really confused now. Some diskmags, such as Vandalism news, do cracker charts with no points to any fake groups (Lamer Labels) however, Arachnophobia puts fake groups as well as proper groups on to the cracker charts. I don't think lamer labels should be added to the cracker charts, the lamer labels should represent the cracker groups, and they should get points. I think it is very silly the way Arachnophobia does the charts, and that it is right what Onslaught said in Vandalism news, regarding the charts.

Thanks for sharing.
2002-09-12 20:28
Jayce
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Registered: Dec 2001
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2002-09-12 22:00
Commander
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Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 106
Quote: I'm starting to get really confused now. Some diskmags, such as Vandalism news, do cracker charts with no points to any fake groups (Lamer Labels) however, Arachnophobia puts fake groups as well as proper groups on to the cracker charts. I don't think lamer labels should be added to the cracker charts, the lamer labels should represent the cracker groups, and they should get points. I think it is very silly the way Arachnophobia does the charts, and that it is right what Onslaught said in Vandalism news, regarding the charts.

ArachnoPhobia has just another point of view. If every diskmagazine should do the same, then what's the point of having more than one diskmag in the scene... It's a matter of taste and it's also a matter of point of view.
2002-09-12 22:25
cadaver

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1160
A bit unrelated, but it just came to my mind: If all productions were quality, there wouldn't be a need for lamer labels :)
2002-09-13 11:50
Stryyker

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 468
Well, blame those that vote! Some mags may or maynot filter (The Beergarden will filter some charts in the future).
2002-09-13 12:09
Vengeance
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Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 22
Lamer label votes are like a DONKEY vote a donkey vote in australia is like when you go to an election and vote shit or dont vote at all etc. All crackers involved in lamer labels have a real handle anyway even if they do a quality verion of a crack.

so its kinda a spilt personality and I am sure most cracker dont want there lamer label voted for unless in fake charts.

As for them being put in charts with real groups, thats inexperiance and mistaken fortunes on the editor or the magazine in quetsion. If the editor is dumb enough to mistake them for a real group then the magazine has to be in question. Investigative jornalism I think we call it.
2002-09-13 13:10
Stryyker

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 468
Aren't the charts just a reflection of what people vote for? It can be hard for editors to decide who gets their votes included or not. Some fake labels are more active than some long gone scener.
2002-09-13 14:58
Shake

Posts: 133
exactly, if people vote for it they have their reasons to get it in the charts. And please Vengeance "investigative journalism" what big words. It's Just a matter of deciding to add them or filter them from the charts.
2002-09-14 13:06
Commander
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Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 106
And for everybody who keeps complaining about the fake-labels, start first with complaining to these who made those fake-groups possible (the so-called quality-groups with a mask). If they never started with this, then they would never had this problem! I think that it is cool now that they are faced with something which they created themselves!!!! I think that ArachnoPhobia did a good thing, it was about time to face these groups with their own problem : or you release a game or you don't release it!!
And by the way, even if some games are from a low buget, they still deserve to be released by those who want and they also still deserve to be put in a release-chart when a diskmag decides to do.
2002-09-14 14:20
Celtic
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Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 807
Better a fake roup introlinkin then a real roup... You guys must be so ashamed makin Mermaids 5 block game into a game into a 45 block game... phew atleast use a fake label for that, coz that aint good man, that is no quality!

Try to think about what you guys create yourself be4 making comment on others... And is it really neccessary to 'crack' a 5 block game like that (and according to mermaid you even made one of the sprites in astrstorm bug!)....

Well.. do not judge the fake labels, coz they are done for this reason... to not look like complete fools like you guys are looking now!
 
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