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2002-12-12 01:44
Eyeth
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The Art of Wiring

Hello, CSDb denizens;

I'm thinking of doing two small demos; One for the SuperCPU and one for a plain c64. I already have some ideas I'd like to try out in these demos.

I will be cross-assembling it and testing it out under winVICE and of course, on the real machine for the SuperCPU one.

Anyway, I'd appreciate any tips in wiring graphics and pictures for my nascent c64 demo efforts. I already wired a Santa piccy for my SuperCPU full-screen FLI demo and managed to muddy the conversion.

That said, I do have high standards and I want to adhere to them. So, I need to do a better job in wiring graphics/pictures to show for it.

First of all, I wonder if it's possible to use a painting program like Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro for the initial production of the picture? I heard there was a c64 palette of 16 or 256 colors for those PC programs? How do I use this palette under those programs?

Should I then save the resulting file to a .BMP, .GIF or .JPEG? What conversion program should I use? Any intermediate steps? I've already used ConGo with my Santa conversion and it didn't go over too well, so I'd like to explore/use other utilities other than ConGo.

I'm thinking of using the drazlace (interlaced Multi-Color Mode) mode for my c64 demo effort and an IFLI mode for my SuperCPU demo effort. Hopefully conversion efforts will yield good results for these two modes I'm contemplating.

Thanks,
-Todd Elliott
2002-12-12 06:13
Black Belt Jones
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well ive toyed with low color pics like cartoons and stuff, and under paint shop pro you can load a pallette, a c64 pallete and it will then give you options on how to convert the picture to that 64 pallette. ie. dithering, nearest colour, etc. i then converted it to drazlace with either BMP2Ifli or congo, and it comes out surprisingly good! but i havent tried it with photo-like shots. anyways if you want the pallette ive got one i downloaded and on i made myself which i feel works a bit better, shoot me an email and ill send it to you ok?
2002-12-12 07:26
Optic
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Hey!

I want that palette too! :)
2002-12-12 08:30
CyberBrain
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You should also have a loot at xray64 (is in CSDb ofcause) - i haven't testet it much, but it's easy to use, and as far as i could see on my pc-monitor, the results are good.
2002-12-12 09:23
Steppe

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Wasn't there another tool for Windows too? It was recently released by a guy called Algorhytm (or something like that). I tried that and liked it, although the customization options of xray are much better.
2002-12-12 10:22
Shake

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Yes Steppe, that is BMP2IFLI by Algorithm, easy to use and the result is good
2002-12-14 12:37
Zeitgeist
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Quote: Hey!

I want that palette too! :)


... and I want one for Photoshop, men :-).
2002-12-14 18:21
QuasaR

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Hi guyz! Bug Groepaz to release his RAYDOMAT which is (what I have seen...) the most advanced graphic-converter...
2002-12-15 03:15
Eyeth
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Hello.

I came across a site by Philip "Pepto" Timmermann giving out an excellent treatise on c64 colors.

I went into Photoshop and created a c64 palette using his RGB values. The conversion results were surprisingly good. I would load in a JPEG and convert it to indexed color using the 16 color palette and Photoshop is very good at this.

However, it's an intermediate step. I still need to convert the resulting image into a suitable c64 format.

Also, is there an IFLI palette? What are the RGB values for the IFLI mode of 136 colors? I could create one for Photoshop and use that.

Enjoy.
-Todd Elliott
2002-12-15 12:01
JCB
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There isn't really such thing as an IFLI palette ie you can't load a picture into photoshop and apply those colours because IFLI relies on your TV being crap and blending 2 of the 16 (yes 16 not 136 hehe) colours together when they're next to each other, so converting a picture in photoshop wouldn't give you the correct 2 interlaced pixels but rather 1 which was the resultant "blended" colour.

I'm pretty sure there are tools around on PC to convert straight from a PC bitmap to an IFLI one and select the correct mix of pixels to create that "more than 16 colours" effect.. If not I could probably do one when I've got time.
2002-12-15 14:07
Zeitgeist
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Quote: Hi guyz! Bug Groepaz to release his RAYDOMAT which is (what I have seen...) the most advanced graphic-converter...

... which I do hereby officially :-). Come on, Groepaz, get yourself together.
 
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