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2010-08-15 16:28
STE'86

Registered: Jul 2009
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Release id #27140 : Serpent Picture

reclassify.

either Triad demo or Robin Levy art. coz its not Triad art.
2010-08-15 16:31
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
who says it's "triad art" ?
2010-08-15 16:38
STE'86

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274
oh i'm sorry is Robin Levy a known Triad member now?
2010-08-15 16:41
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
no? who says that?
2010-08-15 17:11
STE'86

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274
so how is a peice of Robin Levy art a Triad graphics release then?

a Triad demo release, possibly, seeing as it has music but how can Triad be credited with releasing an artists stuff who has no affilation to them?

as i say, either its a triad demo release or a robin levy graphics release.
2010-08-15 17:16
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
its a picture released in this form by triad. end of story.
an entry beeing classified as graphics does in no way imply that said graphics was created by the one who released it. it means that the entry (mainly) contains a picture.
2010-08-15 17:17
Jon
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Posts: 247
I agree, it's mislabeled. It's a Triad demo.

You have the power to reclassify it, STE.

J
2010-08-15 17:23
Joe

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 229
Many groups did that back then: Rip off (especially) music and (occasionally) artwork and released it under the group name. In worst of cases, such as cracks they would have their name tagged on the picture. In worst of cases, people ripped parts/images and tagged them as artists work.
Obviously, this was released by Triad in '87 and correctly credited (on this database and all knowing) to R. Levy & M. Gray. Since there is no trivia written we can only imagine

A. They lent something they thought was supercool and packed it altogether.
B. They had a communication with the people involved.
2010-08-15 17:30
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
as for classification, the hypothetical example is a picture made by person A, not released, stolen by person B, and released by some group.

this would be a graphics entry, credited to said group as releaser. and person A would get the graphics credits (plus if known, maybe some trivia info). essentially exactly like it was done with this entry :)

(and wether picture+tune counts as demo is a completely different matter unrelated to this. commonly releases like this, ie a picture with some tune playing in the background, are not considered demos - simply because a whole lot of gfx releases were like that, original graphics, and some ripped tune playing)

2010-08-15 17:40
Jon
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Gah. I see your point, Groepaz. If I had upped it, I would have classified it as a demo (as I think that a gfx release is simply the gfx with no intro/ addons). It also gives a little more legitimacy to the "ownership" of the release and would most likely assuage STE's concerns.

J
2010-08-15 17:41
Joe

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 229
Ste: Ok, I see your point. The line between demo/image and music played in the background is always changing: I'd favor "Triad Demo".
 
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