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2006-05-06 21:39
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
A thought ..

Hi all,

i was thinking about a idea i had a the other day while i was on http://remix.kwed.org. You all might know the site, its a c64 remixer platform with nice rating and commenting system. The whole thing is linked with http://www.remix64.com/ and forms a great community platform for the entire c64 remixing scene (strictly mp3 and studio-driven or vst based remixes). Ive submitted a couple of remixes there myself.

The reason im mentioning this is, i am missing something like this for the native c64 composing scene. Im sure there are plenty of people out there who still compose natively on the c64 (or emulator / goattracker).

You might say, we allready have HVSC. Dont get me wrong, HVSC is great and i highly admire and value the work the guys have done there.

The thing is, HVSC is kind of static. More recent composers are usually just an extension to the VARIOUS/... branch of the next HVSC update. If im not in a curious mood, i seldomly go wandering through the various branch unless im looking for something specific.

It would even be a great addition to things like HSVSC and CSDB if connected similar to remix.kwed.org and c64remix.com.

I was actually thinking about trying to set up something myself, with some PHP & MySQL implementation (im a half decent PHP coder). Im not sure though if a project like this isnt a little to ambitious for one person.

I would like to hear a few opinions about something like this from other sid related folks. So if anyone feels like discussing the idea i would be happy to hear from you.

Cheers
2006-05-08 11:49
Bamu®
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Registered: May 2005
Posts: 1332
Hmm, it seems that nobody is interested :_(
however, the idea sounds good.
2006-05-08 13:13
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
Seems so, wierd though. Ive added a couple of my latest SIDs to my releaselist here in CSDB and promptly got slapped for it with a comment that SID files do not belong here.

Ok, i could have just made a simple c64 screen with the tune playing and added that instead, but give me a break.
2006-05-08 13:37
Yodelking

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 189
Joe: We'll add your SIDs to HVSC. :)
Some people did playlists for their favourite tunes, and if you're not in a mood to browse around yourself, you can download playlists.
When I hear a good tune from a composer I usually leave the playlist, and listen through all of the composers tunes. Sometimes I just browse around for fun until I find something I like.
I've also selected my favourite tune from the composers I have on http://composers.c64.org/ so you can browse around the site, and listen to my favourite from each composer.
According to the guestbook my taste of favourite sid is interesting:
"Wow, interesting choices for favourite tunes.. The authors of this page should perhaps try collecting stamps instead.."
;)
2006-05-08 21:07
Rattus
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Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 34
I think it's a great idea... a few (thousand) SIDs per year won't even eat much space... And with rating system you could just browse through the best... And see what people think of your SIDs... Do it ! :)
2006-05-09 08:31
SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238
Joseph:
I also like the idea of a SID portal with forum stuff.
http://sidmusic.c64.org ? currently points to c64.org,
would be a nice address to have..

2006-05-09 08:56
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
That would indeed be a nice url. I would seriously consider doing this if i could find some people willing to lend me a hand. I could do the PHP & MySQL code but my designing skills are somewhat limited.
2006-05-09 09:28
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1661
If such a portal shall be built, wouldn't it be a good idea to build it around HVSIDS itself? I mean.. Rather than being separate from HVSIDS, tunes could be submitted to HVSIDS, but the portal could add functionality as a "layer" above HVSIDS. That would include such things as highlighting new tunes and new rips of old tunes and having all the vote stuff and discussions and so on? Also, the site could be used for generating playlists, which could then in turn be used locally on your already-downloaded HVSIDS-collection. This would also resolve (from the viewpoint of the user) the staticness of the directory structure of HVSIDS, because it would provide other structural entry points into the collection, even though the underlying file structure is the same as the current HVSIDS release. When a HVSIDS update is provided, the database of the portal could be updated accordingly, including playlists built on the previous version of HVSIDS, even if tunes are moved and so on.

...and no, I am not going to put any concrete energy into this myself. Just sharing my idea. :)
2006-05-09 09:46
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
Well, my idea was integrating it with HVSC and CSDB in such a way that submitted tunes would automaticly be inserted into HVSC in some way.

The whole point would be that this would happen on a more realtime basis rather than periodical updates in HVSC.

Also i would rather have an emphasis on "new" tunes that have been composed recently and not the entire HVSC collection. What sense would it make competing with Rob Hubbard and Martin Galway after all ? :-)


2006-05-09 11:17
Yodelking

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 189
Quote: Well, my idea was integrating it with HVSC and CSDB in such a way that submitted tunes would automaticly be inserted into HVSC in some way.

The whole point would be that this would happen on a more realtime basis rather than periodical updates in HVSC.

Also i would rather have an emphasis on "new" tunes that have been composed recently and not the entire HVSC collection. What sense would it make competing with Rob Hubbard and Martin Galway after all ? :-)




I'd say a lot of the people of the VARIOUS dir can easily compete with Hubbard and Galway! There are a lot of talented composers under VARIOUS in HVSC.
It's fun if you make a page that holds some kind of top-lists. Whatever makes people listen to more "unknown" composers than just their top 5 composers is good. :)
2006-05-09 11:19
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
Blasphemy!! martin & rob = god :-)

Personal opinions are permitted though, hehe.
 
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