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2010-09-29 15:47
MC
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What makes a good SID editor?

So which feature(s) do you think are imporant?
What do you find annoying in an editor?

I'm trying to get an idea of what would make an editor stand out...

Ofcourse I have some ideas of my own but I'd first like to hear from other composers what they like.
2010-09-29 16:34
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
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Good overview and fast response. That's why I stick with Goattracker; all in one screen, no page flipping, esc keys and all those time consuming clickerdiclicks... Editing sounds while playing is also nice.

I read in another thread about arpegios on track editing (protracker style) vs arpegio tables. I think editing arpegios on track is alot faster and easier, but can become messy in the end.

I'm not too fond of Goattracker's vibrato, but that might also be me.
2010-09-29 17:08
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
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I agree with what Hein said about keeping the stuff on one (or two) screen(s) as much as possible to restrict excessive "navigation" etc... In addition to that, I also like to be able to control any aspect of the sound in any way at any time. ;) (Dunno if you meant to discuss strictly only the editor/gui, or if you include the player in what you call "editor" in your question.)

Okay, that comment was perhaps not entirely serious, but in a way I am not kidding. The things that put me off in other editors, such as JCH, was always some limitation when it came to controlling sound. For example, in JCH I could not let the filter sweep separately from instrument trigs, and also, JCH wouldn't let you trig filter programs from the track itself. In the end, I had to code my own editor to get what I wanted, and indeed I can do anything I want now with it. ;)
2010-09-29 17:53
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
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Obviously the philosophical question whether we're talking about a duration or a tracker based editor should be discussed first.

Depending on that, the answer to what's annoying and whats important might differ :-D
2010-09-29 18:46
MC
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What if an editor would allow both duration based AND tracker style editing?
2010-09-29 19:41
Frantic

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Why not..
2010-09-29 20:51
SIDWAVE
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Quote: What if an editor would allow both duration based AND tracker style editing?

Ninjatracker has that.
2010-09-29 23:56
NecroPolo

Registered: Jun 2009
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Quote: What if an editor would allow both duration based AND tracker style editing?

Martin Piper's latest Music Studio 2.107 release includes that, too.
2010-09-30 00:17
NecroPolo

Registered: Jun 2009
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So which feature(s) do you think are imporant?


- sound of the player

- no export bugs, it is nice to have the same music/sounds in the packed file as in the editor

- powerful packer

- small rastertime consumption player

- note/instrument playback when a note is fed into the editor

- possibly one-screen layout

- realtime playback tracking

- setting instruments on the fly

- simple, straightforward interface


What do you find annoying in an editor?

- Can't really tell on my part. Same as with guitars, literally I never get annoyed by them. Maybe, some export bugs that turned me mad a couple of times...
2010-09-30 03:30
Stryyker

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 469
Some like live playing/recording in the editor so they can jam away.
2010-09-30 03:47
SIDWAVE
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realtime record mode with quantize
 
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