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2015-11-24 10:24
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1343
Credits for 'packer' in productions.

Me and Volcano/EXON discussed briefly this issue and agreed that credits for packing/depacking system, used in production, wouldn't be a bad idea. Akin to loader's case, it's often done by someone else than prod's coder and used in multiple releases. Among pety things like 'testing' or 'storyboard' another little position doesn't seem to be too much. What do you think?
2015-11-24 10:34
ThunderBlade

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 78
I thought about this too. I think when someone releases a packer or a loader he expects people to use it, but does he expect to get credited all the time? I'm not sure.

When I released Ultraflash-Noter V3.0 Featuring Live-(De)Crunching, I got some credits for "Code" when people put out their music in my noter. I didn't think it was necessary. But that's just me. :)
2015-11-24 10:36
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11523
there also should be credits for the guy who wrote the assembler that was used! and dont forget to credit whoever wrote the tracker you were using in all your music entries.
2015-11-24 10:57
T.M.R
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Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 749
Nah, if we start crediting for tools used then every entry will become cluttered with credits and some poor sods are going to have their pages inundated with credits for stuff their tools were used on; look at Krill's entry and all those "(loader)" credits or all the SEUCK games crediting Chris Yates for code as examples.

A link to the tool(s) used in Production Notes might be a better option perhaps...?
2015-11-24 10:57
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1343
So remove all loader credits in prods. If there's shitload of credits for, why not this? ;] A paradise for credits' filling nazis, I'd say ;] All in all it's just one little position to choose from - no one would be forced to use it (as with loader).
2015-11-24 11:07
T.M.R
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Quoting Jammer
So remove all loader credits in prods. If there's shitload of credits for, why not this? ;] A paradise for credits' filling nazis, I'd say ;] All in all it's just one little position to choose from - no one would be forced to use it (as with loader).


Personally i'd prefer to see those credits removed; poor Krill and Chris Yates have their actual body of work lost somewhere deep within that thicket of stuff they weren't involved with directly. Imagine if you put out a music editor and suddenly nobody can tell which releases you actually worked on because over half of your CSDb entry was there as (music routine)!
2015-11-24 11:18
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11523
Quote:
Personally i'd prefer to see those credits removed

this.
Quote:
poor Krill and Chris Yates have their actual body of work lost somewhere deep within that thicket of stuff they weren't involved with directly.

every time i look at the entry for hubbard or <insert popular composer from 80s> i have to cry for the same reason.... basically it makes those entries completely useless. to me anyway.
2015-11-24 11:43
T.M.R
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Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 749
Okay, so how about a system to flag credits so we can differentiate between which releases people worked on directly or not? A filter option on the scener entry page could then remove all that "clutter" or preferably be on as default?

Yeah, the odds are against it i know but hey ho... =-)
2015-11-24 11:52
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11523
i'm sure perff will implement it before 2050 =)
2015-11-24 12:54
Bitbreaker

Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 510
Basically, there's just three credits that are worth mentioning: code, code and code
The rest are lazy bums that don't finish their work in time anyway :-D No need for loader, storyboard and all that shit. If you want to give proper credits for that, note it in the demo. or do even a demopart about it. One could also think of a "tools used for this production" section, aside of all the credits. Then $people can wank on that section and we can enjoy silence again :-)
Also, usually you get physical love or even more for your tools on your favourite parties.
2015-11-24 13:01
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3238
This db is also for giving correct credits when the release authors credited wrong ppl or even not crediting anyone, that's why it's important IMHO to state who's who even if not involved directly in the production. I can't stress enough that the ability to cross check the credits helps a lot.
 
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