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Didi
Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 487 |
PAL/NTSC vs. NTSC/PAL fixed
Can someone please explain how to use the video system tags properly, because I already had a little discussion with Moloch about that.
From my point of view, a crack with a NTSC-fix will be tagged PAL/NTSC, so original format first, followed by format it was fixed for. So PAL-fixed stuff should be called NTSC/PAL then. This also was common usage in the past, as far as I remember.
Maybe change the label to "any (PAL fixed)" or "any (NTSC fixed)" to make it clear. (Cannot always be determinded from the credits.) |
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Fierman
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 85 |
Labels should be according the original release title. ntsc/pal fix flags should ideally have their own fields in the DB (which is not the case as of yet) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
the tags exist, are they still not public? oh well :)
anyway the tags should be used like didi said. the release title however should reflect the actual release title, without any extra added BS |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2928 |
No, the common usage in the past was NTSC/PAL by virtually everyone. On rare times you'd see a Euro use PAL/NTSC simply because they didn't know or care.
The only reason so many people use PAL/NTSC now is the forced usage of it by CSDb in years past. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
it wasnt ever forced, it was invented by people who insisted on putting random BS into release titles :)
and srsly, look at the bulk of releases from mid 90s to now - its hardly ever NTSC/PAL in their titles. that must be a thing done by US people only, and only in the early days. not that it matters, we have agreed on using it like didi said long ago - the only question here is whether those tags will ever be public so that useless debate can end and random BS can be removed from release titles =P |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2928 |
The usage of [pal/ntsc] was forced by CSDb staff for years
The agreement about those tags was related to whether the crack of a game was made by NTSC or PAL group. There was never an agreement about NTSC or PAL tags related to fixing. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
repeating it doesnt make it true either.
it was agreed on how to use the tags for fixes. first comes the original format, then what it was fixed for. and it was never related to who made the crack (what nonsense is this?). |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2928 |
Nonsense? That was the agreed upon usage of [pal/ntsc] and [ntsc/pal] tags here for years.
I love your selective memory |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
[ntsc/pal] always ment "originally NTSC, fixed for PAL"
please point to a discussion where it says that it should mean something else. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
lol. and now i randomly checked a bunch of releases that have this [ntsc/pal] crap in their release titles.... and guess what, there seems exactly one person using it wrong. |
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Fungus
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 686 |
I thought it didn't make much sense really. PAL/NTSC or NTSC/PAL means the same thing to me and that something natively works on both systems , where FIX denotes it was fixed to one system or another or both. Maybe that's why this confusion was put into place to begin with because things can be NTSC origin, work on PAL. PAL origin and work on NTSC. Either origin and Fixed to the other. Either origin and Fixed to work on Both. |
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