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Seven
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 202 |
Non-C64 releases
as far as I remember, it is "The C-64 Scene Database"...
Either releases like the Crest C128 demo get deleted/not added or I demand a decent possibility to also add Amiga, PC, PSX etc. releases...
Which is it? =) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
yes very good point!
guess i'll start adding our psx/gbc/dc/etc blabla releases soonish if nothing else happens :o) |
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CyberBrain
Administrator
Posts: 392 |
I think it's ok that "risen from oblivion" is added. C128 is allmost a C64 (if it makes any sense to say that.. :) It's got a C64 mode f.e.), and the demo was released in the C64 scene (allthough it was for C128).
It was a demo to show C64 effects improved with the extra C128 capabilities... But i don't know... |
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Seven
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 202 |
there's quite a few Amiga releases that started out using the same effects the C64 demos used to have, there's a C64 Emulator for Amiga and the machine was made by Commodore...
there's GBC stuff that has the same effects as C64 demos, made by C64 sceners like Groepaz and the machine has 8-bit...
there's C64 demos that copy famous PC demos...
there's C64 groups that have PSX/PC/Amiga sections...
PC ANSI graphics are very similar to C64 C/G graphics...
where does it start, where does it end?
the only resonable line that can be drawn is to make it "C64 only", that's why the thing is called C64 Scene Database, not Commodore Scene Database...
of course, the last word to this should come from the maintainers, but if C128 stuff is allowed, I can already sense the trouble... |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3057 |
There is not a C-128 scene, Crest and Oxyron are coming from C64 scene, the demo was released for C64 community which has C-128 machine, so I really don't know where else it could be listed if not here. The same goes for productions made for, or benefiting from SuperCPU, Retro/Action Replay, IDE-64 or whatever equipment. I'm sure everyone of us can recognise the gap between C64 release and other plattform release. That's why for example c64.sk rejects the MP3 remixes and game remakes as non-c64 releases. Of course Risen from oblivion shouldn't be voteable in demo-charts.
I see worse problem in the fact that some sceners in database never had C64 and never ever did anything on C64. I don't know if it's only a case of Phantasy, or there are more examples, and I really don't want to start any witch-hunting-orgy, but this is imo more serious problem. |
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Seven
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 202 |
well.. it IS voteable and it even occupied the first spot until _someone_ downvoted it by using the WA-given opportunity...
now what? |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3057 |
Maybe "exclude from charts" option could help it. |
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Seven
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 202 |
maybe it doesn't... who's to set it and could it be reset by someone else? is it locked with the rest of the entry (if the entry is locked)?
a C128 demo is NO C64 demo, so it should NOT be listed in the category C64 demo... if you really NEED demos like this listed in this database, it needs a new category...
"almost C64 demo" =) |
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CyberBrain
Administrator
Posts: 392 |
Seven is right. How about just plain "C128 Demo", or "C128 Production" (<- to cover all C128 releases somehow connected with the C64-scene (not many i guess, but still)) |
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Carcass
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 17 |
shut up you idiots!
why this stupid fuckin argument? who cares about the psx or amiga...
C128 is perfectly acceptable |
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Seven
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 202 |
Hello and nice to see you joined us here in our friendly discussion forum.
If you can't play by the rules and join the discussion in a proper way instead of submitting non-productive flames, why don't you pack your surfboard, hit the waves and leave the discussion to those who care, california boy?
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