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Rough
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Adding the cracker group to import/trainer version
I saw many people add the original cracking group when another group imported their release and linked their intro in front of the original release, or added additional cheats.
I say this is mostly a nono.
e.g. When a crack by Ikari is imported to Poland or New Zealand (just examples, dont want to sound discriminating) by some group, this has nothing to do with Ikari and the import of that group should not be credited to Ikari and the import should not pop up in Ikari's release list. Better add information about importing or additional cheats into the comments of the import release (including a link to the original release)
In newer cases with official imports to the US boards, these imports were mostly in direct trade between both groups, often there's just a release with both the cracker and the importer/fixer intro, in this case it's obvious to credit both groups, also if there is a cracker only release besides the one with the import intro, I think the original cracking group should be credited, cos these imports have been approved.
It's difficult with old imports, e.g. from FBR etc. I really dont know if these imports were exclusive and approved trades, or if e.g. Triad just uploaded it to someone in the US and then after some weeks FBR linked their intro in front of it w/o Triad knowing it. It mostly can be checked if the US (or Canadian) group is greeted in the cracker's scroll. It's mostly safe to say the imports of well-known groups are official and those of some unknown US group are not.
When it comes to additional cheats, e.g. on Bazooka Bill trained by LDA and originally cracked by The Light Circle, the original crew should not be added as this wasnt an officially approved thing by the original group, in this case add a message+link into the comments as well. |
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wreg
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agreed, is that common sense or did we already had this discussion!? :) |
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chatGPZ
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yes we did, rough might want to use the forum search a bit more =) |
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Rough
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nope, that's just my point of view, open for discussion, hate-attacks, whatever...
everything above should be logical, could be I forgotten some special cases.
edit: you're probably right, Groepaz...
It's good to have these topics already being discussed, still they are mostly ignored. There should be a more specified FAQ for adding entries at the 'Help' page |
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chatGPZ
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there is :=) |
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Rough
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on specifical topics like the above? nowhere. |
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chatGPZ
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maybe. we tried to keep the rules as short and simple as possible (and some even think they are too much already).
looks like we need to refine them further (especially concerning intros *grin*) |
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The MeatBall
Registered: Dec 2001
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Re-opening this thread (and I can't find the other one that Gropeaz mentions), regarding imports.
In my opinion, an import should only be credited to the 'exporting' group once, and all imports of one particular release should be linked to the original groups single entry.
For some of the big US or EU groups have 5-6 entries for basically the same release, imported by 5-6 different groups. Take North East Crackers, listed with 326 releases, but Amazing Spider-Man+ is listed 15!!! times....
The crack should be listed 1 time for NEC, and when entering the release, it should list all the different imports done, with links to the respective releases (which should still show NEC as the originator for the release).
Does that make sense? |
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Jon
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Sounds good, but how much restructuring would be needed on the Db? There would also be an incredible amount of work for the "curators" of the CSDb as well.
I really like the idea (and the idea of tagging releases as well) but...
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Rough
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Wanted to agree with the topic starter and two seconds later I saw it was myself. 8) |
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assiduous
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Quote: Re-opening this thread (and I can't find the other one that Gropeaz mentions), regarding imports.
In my opinion, an import should only be credited to the 'exporting' group once, and all imports of one particular release should be linked to the original groups single entry.
For some of the big US or EU groups have 5-6 entries for basically the same release, imported by 5-6 different groups. Take North East Crackers, listed with 326 releases, but Amazing Spider-Man+ is listed 15!!! times....
The crack should be listed 1 time for NEC, and when entering the release, it should list all the different imports done, with links to the respective releases (which should still show NEC as the originator for the release).
Does that make sense?
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