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2011-11-16 00:04
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 513
Subtypes for tools?

Was this suggested before? I cannot believe it was not :)

Please, oh pretty please, let's have a subtype for 'C64 Tool' - we have mode for the gfx, why can't we have something for this one?? It's so logical I think... At the very least to have 'Gfx tool', 'Sound tool', 'Disk tool', 'Packer' etc.

It such a pain in the ass to look for tools here when you're developing a release or want to do something very specific. And you're convinced there is already a tool to do it, but most querries return squat. My example: I was looking for something for automatic transfer from turbo-tapes to disk, and no querry returned A.T.T.A.C V1.0 - I spotted it in the comments of some other tool, whereas A.T.T.A.C V1.0 was the only one which met all my requirements. Same for gfx-to-char converters, for example ;)
2011-11-16 07:40
ready.

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 441
I am 100% with wackee! I also was looking for a char mode editor tool and the only thing that helped me was a forum tread started by Carrion some time ago. This feature would be very useful for searching tools.
2011-11-16 07:51
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384
so to make this as little work to implement as possible.... come up with a comprehensive list and some short definitions of what goes into which category. it can probably then be added in a similar way as the gfx types.
2011-11-16 08:55
enthusi

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 677
I think all this can easyly be handled via the AKA field and a proper search.
Simply searching for 'tape' reveals a mere 76 releases. I you init an 'advanced' search for 'tape' and 'tool' its just 50, with ATTAC being the fourth.
And surely we cant have subtypes more specific than 'tape' anyway.
I would much rather see people to NAME their tools properly as main title or in the AKA field.
As long as people font even do that, I see no use of subtyped actually...
2011-11-16 10:31
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
Good points there. A possibility to search Summary & Production Notes of releases could also be helpful.
2011-11-16 20:37
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 513
We need to start somewhere, so here is a list that comes to my mind. Most of them are pretty clear (I think), for others I gave some examples to clarify:

Animation tool	
Assembler	
BBS Tool	
Cartridge			(cartridge images)
Characterset editor	
Copier	
Copy protector			(protectors, coders)
Data base			(data bases, catalogue tools)
Demo maker	
Diagnostic tool			(testers)
Disk loader/saver		(turboloaders, loadersystems)
Disk tool			(disk editors, dir editors, formatters)
File manager	
Game development tool		(map editors, seuck)
Graphics converter	
Graphics editor			(bitmap editors)
Graphics viewer	
Intro maker	
Magazine editor	
Monitor	
Music editor	
Music player	
Music utility			(rippers, relocators)
Noter				(notemakers, writers)
Operating system		(GEOS)
Other	
Packer				(charpackers, crunchers, zippers)
Packing system	
Programming language compiler	
Programming language interpreter	
Spreadsheet	
Sprite tool	
Tape loader/saver		(turboloaders)
Tape tool			(tape cataloguing software, head adjusters)
Text editor	
Virus tool	
Vote counter


Make your proposals.
2011-11-18 21:28
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 513
Don't let this die :)
Is it implemented yet? :)
2011-11-18 22:29
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1648
I also think this is a very good idea. I would indeed like to be able to browse tools in a more structured way.
2011-11-18 22:51
Skate

Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 494
I support this as well. But sometimes too many subcategories can be a little unhandy. So, I think we can reduce the number by moving some unused tool categories to other and merge some of the rest.

Virus tool -> Other
Programming language compiler & Programming language interpreter -> Programming language tools
Packing system -> Packer
File manager -> Disk tool

etc. It's just an idea. Otherwise, we could add new categories like "3d tools" etc. but i think they will be just fine in "Other" category.
2011-11-18 23:10
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1932
+1 for the idea as well, but the categories should be kept at a minimum as well. ftp://ftp.scs-trc.net/pub/c64/Tools/ is coming close to what I'd also like to see. Putting on categories for virus tools, sinus editors, vote counters and spreadsheet would be overkill IMHO.
2011-11-19 00:04
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 513
Ok, based on those suggestions, I give you v2 :)

Animation tool	
Assembler		(assemblers, monitors)
BBS Tool	
Cartridge		(cartridge images, cartridge tools)
Characterset tool	(characterset editors, converters)
Copy tool		(protectors, coders, copiers)
Data base		(data bases, catalogue tools)
Demo maker		(intro makers, demo makers)
Diagnostic tool		(testers)
Disk loader/saver	(turboloaders, loadersystems)
Disk tool		(disk editors, dir editors, formatters)
Game development tool	(map editors, seuck)
Graphics converter	
Graphics editor		(bitmap editors)
Graphics viewer	
Modem tool	
Music editor	
Music utility		(rippers, relocators, players)
Noter			(notemakers, writers, docs makers)
Operating system	(GEOS)
Other	
Packer			(charpackers, crunchers, zippers, archivers, packing systems)
Programming language	(interpreters, compilers)
Spreadsheet	
Sprite tool	
Tape loader/saver	(turboloaders)
Tape tool		(tape cataloguing software, head adjusters)
Text editor		(text editors, magazine editors)
Vote counter	
 
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